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post #41 of 43 (permalink) Old 08-06-2003, 08:17 PM
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I think Thomasio's point can be proven by the some crash test results that I have recently seen.

In frontal offset crash tests conducted by the IIHS, the driver was much more likely to sustain head injury in the Dodge Ram 1500 than in the Subaru WRX.

I know that this is only one test in one direction, but it goes to show that crumple zones and safety design can be more critical than mass alone.
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post #42 of 43 (permalink) Old 08-06-2003, 09:20 PM
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Hi all,
If anyone wants tuition from an instructor who is clearly head and shoulders above everyone else in the business (as far as the elise is concerned) then look at - the school run by Andrew Walsh.

I've never heard a bad word spoken about this guy and more people than not have done tuition with him.

If you find yourself coming to England at some point you could do a lot worse than to book some time with him on the airfield at North Weald, just North of London.

My airfield day with him is on the 11th August; not long to go and I'm pretty excited by it!

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There's no question that crumple zones and design are a vary important factor. I just disagreed with the statement that mass has no effect.

The crash test you cite does nothing to disprove the effects of mass in a collision, for the same reason the Galaxy vs Civic comparison is bogus. You're comparing a pickup truck, which doesn't have to be built to the same safety standards as cars, to a sedan from a company with a focus on safety (notice that the same organization recognized the Forrester as the safest small SUV).

I didn't that small agile cars are unsafe (I drive one after all, without a roof or roll bar at that), but I think it's wrong not to acknowledge that low mass carries a liability in a collision with another vehicle. You should recognize the weaknesses as well as the strengths if you want to accurately evaluate the safety of a car.

I'm sure that the Elise will be a safe car. I just don't think that it will be as safe as an Accord.

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