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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-09-2017, 07:40 AM Thread Starter
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First Elise drive yesterday

The Lotus showed up Thurs nite...great shipper btw..enclosed and plastic wrapped (Grace shipping).
After checking everything out...calling Lotus US to check on the recalls (hoses/shifter were done)...and I appreciate this forum for the info on everything...I checked all fluids (full tank of gas?) and adjusted everything physically and mentally and backed her out.

I love the steering, very precise and easy...good feel. Not as much feedback there tho as an older 911 (my metric for a comparison) but still fantastic.

The seller had the shift mech adjusted and it shifted very well...much better than I had expected reading some stuff here...easy, fast synchros and no searching for a gear....a better more modern box than the 911 915.....I like it. I will probably bolt the unit to the floor as has been suggested here but did not feel any movement distraction.

Once properly warmed up (thanks for that info def) I was on one of our 4 lane state roads and could hammer it...very nice above 6k...love that push, feels like a mini turbo coming on line. Sweet little 4.

Brakes...work well but I have the 2" way too deep into the pedal so can't heel toe common issue...I'll address that...btw, the fluid is fresh and the seller who knows Lotus bled them 5 times but still there....he is a dealer (Response Motors LLC) and also owns one....Graham is his name and he was an excellent guy to deal with and honest about any blemish etc....he prepped the car...all fluids/pads/tires new in back and adjusted the shifter knowing the issues etc....I recommend him if you are in the market for anything.

Vision....not as bad as expected....front and directly rear fine, driver side fine but a def blind spot passenger side...more convex glass in order.

Ergonomics are good, I like the simplicity and lack of extraneous widgets.....these seats need help tho...they are 12 years old so there is that....I'll re pad them with some modern gelfoam.

Visually the car is stunning..simply.

The soft top (no hard) is actually pretty damn nice...the seller had it religned so it is like new....yesterday was open top (AZ you know).

This is a purpose built, no real frills (ok, AC)...my wife said I can't take that out like I did on the 911....sportscar that leans more toward a racing vehicle than any I've owned.
Now I see why they are often sold after a short time and have few miles on them....many are not prepared for that reality...they may think they are but they've never been in a raw sportscar before. It is def a niche car...but if it is your niche you will love it.
I love it.

So, now I will work on the few things that need doing/upgrading to get it just so.

Colin Chapman would love this car....it embodies what he was all about....kudo's to the Lotus team for following thru.

BTW....I have no affiliation with the folks commented about above...just a good experience.

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Welcome to the lotus family! One word of warning...upgrades are addictive


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Lol...believe me I know....if I listed my sports car addiction list you'd understand.

This is a very sweet purpose built ride...unique and a bit quirky and that translates to personality.

When the Japanese took a Lotus Elan to 'study' for the Miata they forgot the personality part....imo.
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We've been fortunate to have a 2006 and 2011 with us over the the last 9 years. Since picking up the 06 (after speccing and ordering in 2005), and getting the '11 later, I can tell you that every time we see, drive, wash, or maintain the car (only have the '11 now), it's just like the first day!!
Great choice, enjoy, take care, and share your terrific car with others!
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Awesome review and I love the comparisons! I can definitely relate to your statement, "Now I see why they are often sold after a short time and have few miles on them....many are not prepared for that reality...they may think they are but they've never been in a raw sportscar before." As much as I love driving it, I struggle to drive it more than 2 times (max) a week in fear parking lot incidents (people at my work park horribly).
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Thanks for sharing your experience and enthusiasm. Sounds like you have done your homework.

The heeltoe pad that Shinoo has will get that brake pedal up just right

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Thanks for sharing your experience and enthusiasm. Sounds like you have done your homework.

The heeltoe pad that Shinoo has will get that brake pedal up just right

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Thanks for the tip...I was thinking of making one myself....
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If your car is an '05, the heel and toe pad is not necessary. The gas pedal stops are adjustable, pretty easily, with instructions in the Lotus workshop manual. I'm not sure about the DBW cars.
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I used the pad on our 05 to move the effective pad area to the right, as well as upward. It can be adjusted maybe three inches left to right

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If your car is an '05, the heel and toe pad is not necessary. The gas pedal stops are adjustable, pretty easily, with instructions in the Lotus workshop manual. I'm not sure about the DBW cars.
Thanks....I've just figured that out looking at some diagrams...I'll give that a shot first.
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Thanks....I've just figured that out looking at some diagrams...I'll give that a shot first.
I found that the re position Lotus recommended set the pedal too low so you might want to play with it to see what's comfortable.

BTW, I've driven a number of non-PS 911s and 944s. I agree that they do have wonderful steering. Lot's of feel and feedback, sometimes to the point where it feels like you're fighting with the front tires. In addition to the feedback, the immediate steering response is amazing in the Lotus.
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Tried adjusting the pedal and no joy...still engages too low for Heel/T....looked at the Sector 111 site and when I went to check out my security told me it was an unsecure site....someone trying to steal info....yesterday their site was down for awhile so I am suspicious...was going to look at their brake pedal pad....
I'll call them tomorrow altho the site said 'they are no longer taking phone calls' and that made me suspicious too....so many internet thieves out there.
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Tried adjusting the pedal and no joy...still engages too low for Heel/T....looked at the Sector 111 site and when I went to check out my security told me it was an unsecure site....someone trying to steal info....yesterday their site was down for awhile so I am suspicious...was going to look at their brake pedal pad....
I'll call them tomorrow altho the site said 'they are no longer taking phone calls' and that made me suspicious too....so many internet thieves out there.
Sector111 is out of business. Shinoo sells most of the same products at inokinetic now.
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Sector111 is out of business. Shinoo sells most of the same products at inokinetic now.
Whoa there....the site will still take your info...thankfully I did not give up any other than address...thanks.

200 plus bucks for a pedal pad....really...I know, small volume...I think I'll make one.
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These cars are simply great!


Note to new Elise & Exige Owners:


1. These cars have large (i.e. dangerous) blind spots. Multivex mirrors are NLA, but RLS (Really Light Stuff) offers very good tape-on replacements.


2. The horns are way too weak (quiet). There’s an inverse relationship: smaller the car, louder the horn needs to be.

Get something such as a Stebel Nautilus.

Stock: “Excuse me”


Stebel: “HONK! LOOK OUT!”

Remove the stock horn; replace with louder.

(I drive with my finger on the horn button in any traffic. Iffy situations, my headlights are on.

Stay to the left of traffic, i.e. avoid passing on the right if you can.

Stop way behind trucks, SUVs, etc. Some have blindspots >50’. )


3. The early cars came with misaimed and dim headlights. If you drive at night, convert to HIDs. While better than stock halogen bulbs are available, HIDs throw more light. Stay around 5000k.


4. Ensure your car has had the work required by the recall for oil line fittings done. You could lose an engine and/or spin in your own oil.

5. The best transmission lube I’ve found is Redline MT-90 plus a little Power Punch Extreme Gear Oil Additive. (Note that it takes two changes to get rid of the previous lube.)

a) Early cars have wobbly shift towers. Look up Stan’s Mod (bolt and spacer; http://www.billswebspace.com/ShifterReinforcement.pdf) and

Re-Enforcer long thru bolts that terminate under car and tie down the tower:
https://www.inokinetic.com/lotus/re-...y=Transmission

These (lube, mods) make a huge change in shifting.


6. As per some engine builders on these sites, wait AT LEAST 20 minutes after coolant has reached full operating temp before engaging cam switchover.


7. Rear toe-links can loosen and break with disastrous results. You can check tq periodically, or use Nordlock washers. Best is conversion to better engineered brace, such as BOE’s for one example.


8. While under the car with panel off, look around for hoses and wires chafing their way to failure. That’s how this was found:
https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f311...-u-tube-47232/

9. The stock radiators are prone to leaking where the end caps meet the metal part. Keep an eye on this. Most of us use single-pass all-aluminum radiators.

10. When your wheel well liner comes loose, skip the lame plastic rivet and use Well-Nuts instead.

11. Life will be better if you disable the auto-arming alarm function on the earlier cars. You won’t have to press a button to start the car. Instructions:

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f320...ramming-70940/


12. Some on this site are a bit obsessed with hockey pucks for lifting the car. Don’t use these. Too hard and slippery, generally, and too small a surface area. Use a piece of wood, as your hero does.

13. Visit the Uber Thread

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f3/e...ow-here-25131/

14. Most parts on the car are made by Toyota and others, so buying things like a/c compressors, engine parts, etc. are wildly expense when purchased thru Lotus.

Toyota dealers, auto parts stores are way less expensive.


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Plus:

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f101...brakes-241138/


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glb...yes, thanks, I've seen that thread....this site has been a fantastic source of info on a small production run car....just excellent.
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