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Front Clam Weight

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How much does a front clamshell weigh with headlights in it? I need to take mine off for the first time this weekend. I know it must be cumbersome but is it too heavy to lift off the car by yourself? I'm trying to hunt down a helper but in the event I cant and I need to physically take it off the car myself I was wondering if that is possible.

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I think somewhere around 38 lbs.
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Oh. So it's plenty light to pick up yourself, just need to be careful banging it around! Thanks much!

Also, nice car
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It is light, but would not do the original lift off by myself.
The attachment points on each side near the door hinges could easily get snagged, and would be easy to damage.
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I was worried about that... I'm scared. I just don't want to scratch or break a brand new $8800 front end! Thanks for the info.

Is there anything out of the ordinary I should be aware of? Or any tricks that make it easier or faster? I have the Sands Museum walkthrough which looks a bit over-detailed but lays it out nicely so it doesn't look hard for an experienced mechanic.

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Absolutely do NOT do it by yourself.....at least one other person to help.
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I've removed it solo a few times, but if you can possibly get a helper that's the way to go. By yourself, you have to lean way out over the clam and heave up. Hard on the back.

Whether you have help or not, you should "free" all the corners first, so that the clam ends up sitting loosely on top of the front end frame. You can do that before you call in the helper. Then the big lift will go smoother. Take your time and prepare a landing pad.

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I did it alone but I snapped an inch off the passenger door top corner putting it back.It stayed attached because of the starshield so I never repaired it.
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I've pulled mine three times, and twice by my self, it's a non event.

Get a chunk of cardboard over the radiator so it doesn't get ganked up by the clam center section.
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I retrieved my old one from the body shop, into and out of a van and into the garage by myself. The whole time I could hear creaking and minor cracking; the material is quite thin.. I used to remove + install a Fiero rear body section (similar size / weight) by myself all the time, but waay thicker material so I wasn't afraid of it snapping in half like an egg shell.

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I've pulled mine three times...
Ahh, c'mon man, we don't need to know those kinds of details!
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Removed and installed a few times solo. Not a huge deal but a helper would be nice of course. Don't forget to unplug the antenna though.

You have to remove headlights to remove the clam though.
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LOL, yup three times, one day, switch hands for the "strange" factor...
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Removed and installed a few times solo. Not a huge deal but a helper would be nice of course. Don't forget to unplug the antenna though.

You have to remove headlights to remove the clam though.
sorry for the stupid question, and i know i should know the answer, but why? Is there a way to mod the lights situation so they could remain in the clam during removal??

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sorry for the stupid question, and i know i should know the answer, but why? Is there a way to mod the lights situation so they could remain in the clam during removal??
I don't think you want to mess with $2000 headlights to save 30 minutes.

There are bolts securing clam under the headlights.
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Thanks for the help guys. I successfully replaced my radiator and rubber brake lines this weekend. Not a hard job, but certainly not a fast one either Bleeding the cooling system is a hassle since I blew the old coolant out and switched brands. I had a hard time getting the air-bound water pump to start pumping again. My temp moves up and down a tiny bit when I stop moving so I think I still have a little air bubble to bleed out, but otherwise the job went very well.

As for the headlights, I loosened them but left them "tethered" to the clam by the wires because I didn't want to undo all the wire loom. I loosened them, removed the clam bolts underneath, and immediately re-secured them (albeit loosely) so they wouldn't bang around while moving the clam. It worked well and saved me the time of re-fastening the wires up against the clam.

I'll find a walk-through post on this topic and post my additional findings/short cuts. That whole AC condenser is a bit of a pickle
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How tricky is it to realign the clam when installing?
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Not bad at all really. If you leave the hard to reach screws in the clam shell but very loose, it's easy to get them on. The shims are C shaped and can be inserted after the clam and screws are put on.

I ended up with 1 extra shim. I wrote down how many came out of each location but when I put it back together it lined up better by removing one of them. This is common as it is so large with so many mounting points, the alignment can change so you may or may not use the same shims in the same locations.

It's easier to get on than off, put it that way
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