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Interior door latch failure/plastic

Just tried to open my drivers door from inside and experienced a failure-disassembled the mechcanism and the failure is the plastic bushing that interfaces between the latch mecanism and pull rod-a "5 cent" part.

I looked it up on Lotus Garage and its only available as part of the latch mechcanism-Its a weak link and prone to failure-I would buy several to keep available-and JUST KNOW that latch replacements in the future will be unavailable-anyone with a suggested replacement for this "5 cent" part??
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Hi.

What does it look like? Post a picture. Thanks.

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If it is the piece that looks like #11 in the diagram Alex posted, I think I may have an extra. I will check once I get home from work.

Mine broke last year and I just took one from the passenger side until I could get a replacement.

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i think it is #11. happened to my driver's door right when I pulled up at the dealer for service. LOL I heard something snap and couldn't get out. Lucky they had the part and lucky it happened there! Pretty quick and easy fix.

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Number 11s

Thanks for the help-I'll buy several.

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My driver's interior door latch broke last night. It was the same part identified above but at the interior handle. It doesn't show on the schematic but is on the end of 26. I was able to get a replacement at the local auto parts store (assortment for $3.33). Evidently these are common to many cars. While the replacement looked slightly different (actually had more meat to it) it was functionally the same, fits and works correctly.

Getting the door panel off was interesting as it has a hidden connector at the rear. Once all the screws are out and the Velcro is released, slide the panel to the back.

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looks like something i've found through Dorman before. available in most parts stores... i recommend part # 75474. it's an assortment.

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I used a zip tie on mine when it broke. Its holding well since it broke over a year ago. Lotus garage sent me the wrong part so I used my Maveric skills on it.

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I used a zip tie on mine when it broke. Its holding well since it broke over a year ago. Lotus garage sent me the wrong part so I used my Maveric skills on it.
I'm sure there's no way you have a picture of this, is there? I have my business all apart with the intent to use your zip tie fix, but I'm struggling to see how you might have done it.

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If I didn't have to take my door off I'd gladly post a pic of my ziptie fix as well.... I'll do some digging and see if I can find any pictures I snapped when it snapped (pun intended).

Had this happen to me in a parking lot and I sat there with the handle pointing inward still in my hand for a solid 10 seconds as my brain tried to process what had happened. I was able to let the window down and open it from the outside easily.

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drat... found the picture I took of the failure but I didn't have any of the solution I came up with

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I believe it was a super small ziptie that goes through the hole and between the metal bar and plastic bit on the end to keep it from slipping out....

the problem for me was the teeth breaking off (you can see the left tooth gone completely).

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I'm sure there's no way you have a picture of this, is there? I have my business all apart with the intent to use your zip tie fix, but I'm struggling to see how you might have done it.
I took my door card off just for you hbar. I know this method added weight but it increased reliability. The door opens fine feels just like stock no binding or any other negative effects. Its not a small zip tie but a regular size one. This fix has lasted well over a year now and is showing no signs of failure.
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Interesting. That's not at all what I envisioned. Thanks for doing that. Of course, I fixed it the "OEM" way before you posted that, using one from a pack from Autozone.

I was out on an unrelated matter, but realized that I was going to pass right by the Lotus dealer, so I hit the parts dept. Turns out there is a service bulletin on this, but I don't know what it said. Regardless, the parts guy said that they replaced the plastic clip thing you have pictured in your "what went wrong" post with a very simple plastic bushing-type thing. I'm not convinced it is any better of a solution, but I figured I'd give it a shot. Of course, as I was trying to install it, it fell into the abyss of the door.

I do have pictures of it, as well as the part number. It was a buck, and the dude gave it to me for free. Once I get them off my phone I'll post them here.

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Ok, here is what I got from the Lotus dealer. Again, I pointed out the part I needed (#11 on the exploded diagram), and also mentioned the bit about it actually belonging at the end of #26. "So you're familiar with Lotus" was his response. Per the computer the part we are all familiar with was replaced, with a mention of a SB. I don't know the SB#, sorry. I may call up there next week to see if I can get that info.

Here is the part:


Here is the bag it came in:


Here is what it looks like halfway set, moments before this post went from "here's how this works" to "here is how this might have worked." It was "somewhat" snug as pictured, and a little more snug on the actual metal rod...but not so snug that I wasn't able to easily knock it off when I was putting it back together. As such, I'm not convinced that (a) I was given the right part and/or (b) that it works any better than the original design.



While he gave me the part free, it was only $1. I'm curious to know what might happen if somebody else went to a different dealer and asked for the same part.

Also I'm wondering based on the exploded diagram, are there actually TWO of these inside the door? Part 11, and then also the one at the end of 26? All the failures seem to be at the handle, but if there are two parts I'd expect two different failures over time....I'm probably jinxing it by even asking the question.

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yeah that's not what it looks like in my door... look at the image I linked a couple replies up



Mine has teeth and has a part that goes literally ON the pull-rod. It's shown in the exploded diagram as being attached to the #22 assembly.

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yeah that's not what it looks like in my door... look at the image I linked a couple replies up

Mine has teeth and has a part that goes literally ON the pull-rod. It's shown in the exploded diagram as being attached to the #22 assembly.
Right. And what I'm saying is that when I asked the parts guy at the dealer, he said there was a service bulletin that replaced what you have pictured with what I have pictured.

I'm not convinced he is completely correct, I'm just reporting the facts of the story. And until somebody repeats this exercise, we won't know since I dropped my new part into the door.

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One of the clips on my door broke this week. I bought a package of 8 different clips at O'reilly Auto Parts for $4 and found one that worked just fine.

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One of the clips on my door broke this week. I bought a package of 8 different clips at O'reilly Auto Parts for $4 and found one that worked just fine.
Nice to know. Thanks.

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