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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 06-10-2015, 03:42 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy My lotus has gone hay wire

To begin, let me tell you a little about my car.

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f231...66/index2.html the yellow elise crashed in fence was mine before repairs

It is a 2005 Lotus Elise. I bought it with a rebuilt title 32K miles, it now has 47K haven't had any issues EXCEPT..

a few months back I was driving down the freeway and the panel under the engine got sucked down and dragged on the ground when it caught air, and my car immediately died.

After 2 weeks and a tow back to the house of trying to reset inertia switch disconnecting battery and all other methods people told me to try, disabling the immobilizer did the trick, and once running I found out the A/C compressor pulley went out and almost caught my car on fire

The shift light has never stopped flashing since I disabled the immobilizer

How all this happened at the same time, I have no clue

Lately I have had trouble out of my push to start button. Sometimes it works first try, most the time I have to push it 100x or hold it or hit it just right.

Reason I am telling you guys this, is because lately, my car has been acting weird.

I was driving down the freeway and all of a sudden I lost all power and the car died. I pulled over thank God I was in slow lane because it was horrible traffic already. I was able to start the car after a while.

Almost every time I get in car now the lights flicker and don't come on usually until I giggle battery cables, (was assuming it was a ground issue?! not electrically inclined and still working on mechanical knowledge).

Today I was at autozone, and I got back in my car, it did the usual nothing came on except dash light flicker, got out giggled the cables, then all of a sudden this alarm came on my car and the lights were flashing on dash. It would go off after a minute or so then come back on, and I was still able to start the car but the alarm was still on. There is a small alarm box behind the push to start button that I can hear clicking. I tried to pull the two wires connected to it (aside from the ones hard wired to it) and it didn't do anything. I drove the car home after a while of giggling wires and things I don't know what they do, and the alarm stayed on, and now the car is off and the box is still making a clicking sound.

I know this is just a mess but I have had the car 7 months now no problems, and put quite a few miles on it as I have daily driven the car and taken it on road trips.

thanks!

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I've had a similar problem with the start button, check to see if any of the plastic tabs inside are broken or cracked - this will lead to the intermittent no start problem due to a poor or no contact on the cracked terminal; a new start button will fix it.
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How do you get the actual start button out of the plastic to inspect it? I can disconnect the back but I cant actually get the button out, I unthreaded it but it just hangs all wiggly jiggly haha
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Since jiggling the battery cables makes a difference, the first thing I would do is tighten the clamps that hold the battery cables to the battery posts. Battery cable clamps that are less than tight can cause all sorts of intermittent electrical problems.

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The connections feel tight, so I haven't tightened them yet but I will definitely give this a shot.
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It has to be in the battery cables. I had the shift light start randomly flashing/flickering and that ended up being a loose battery + cable. With a poor/intermittent battery connection it can cause starting issues/loss of power, etc.

Keep in mind just because the terminal on the battery is tight, doesn't necessarily mean the cables have a good connection to the terminal.

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Thanks Spirit, I will give it a shot tomorrow and report back, I appreciate the advice
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If I remember from your original thread, you never had a key fob either, right?

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a few months back I was driving down the freeway and the panel under the engine got sucked down and dragged on the ground when it caught air, and my car immediately died.

...and once running I found out the A/C compressor pulley went out and almost caught my car on fire...

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Clearly, the engine undertray coming off wasn't electrical. Were not all the bolts present and tightened? Any clue as to why the car died when this happened?

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I would take both cables off and clean the terminals and cable clamps to start.

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The other guys are quick to problem solve with you. I am going to talk all voodoo

The LOTUS Gods have decided to pull your card and test you man... I have felt their heavy hands on me with 3 teardowns only 1 of them being optional in 2 years...
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Cars like these can become a horcrux and are more temperamental like a motorcycle.

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Cut yourself open working on it and bleed on the engine. Let it know that it will not defeat you. Should you not retrieve the fan from the lions den... your LOTUS ownership can turn very dark You will never be happy because you will know it is not right.

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So just get in the zone and square your jaw and start wrenching back from the brink until your car is exactly where you want it to be. I have never had a car test me like my elige has

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It has to be in the battery cables. I had the shift light start randomly flashing/flickering and that ended up being a loose battery + cable. With a poor/intermittent battery connection it can cause starting issues/loss of power, etc.

Keep in mind just because the terminal on the battery is tight, doesn't necessarily mean the cables have a good connection to the terminal.
It could also be the battery isn't in the peak of health - essentially your symptoms are of poor voltage so start looking at the overall electrical system (the battery and its connections are the cheapest and easiest to check).

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Clearly, the engine undertray coming off wasn't electrical. Were not all the bolts present and tightened? Any clue as to why the car died when this happened?
I still do not know why the car died when this happened it was the weirdest thing. I was driving, heard this horrible sound from under the car, and thought I blew the engine, pulled over, turned the car off, and then it wouldn't start back up until I disabled the immobilizer a couple weeks later.

After I got it running I went for a test run and about 12 miles in I smelled something burning, pulled over, noticed smoke from around alternator. Had it towed back, I lifted it in my garage and ran it to see where exactly it was coming from and noticed the pulley on a/c comp was throwing sparks and glowing...

When I bought the car it had quarter turn fastners in it, and after it happened I inspected it and some appeared to have been just hanging in there which the backing missing and now the underside of the car is damaged to where I cant even put the plate back on underneath..

Havent replaced a/c yet I just got a shorter belt and avoided the a/c

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If I remember from your original thread, you never had a key fob either, right?
that is correct, I have some crappy looking cheap after market ones that don't work
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It could also be the battery isn't in the peak of health - essentially your symptoms are of poor voltage so start looking at the overall electrical system (the battery and its connections are the cheapest and easiest to check).

thanks, tomorrow I will check voltage and make sure everything is good while I remove and clean the terminals, although everything looks fantastic on the battery so I really am hoping its one of the terminals, maybe something is more loose then what I am feeling
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I don't know the answer but this sounds like an electrical issue, bonding most probably, loose bonding connections between metal components can cause crazy symptoms.

As the alternator was involved I would search here, especially the main larger bonding cables. Check the engine bonding to the chassis is good, plus connections going to the battery.

Look for corrosion and loose connections
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I've had the exact "blinking light, engine dies" thing happen before when my battery came loose. Also, I have had the "absolutely nothing happens when I turn the key" because a battery post wasn't perfectly right although it was snug. If the tray jarred the car just a bit when it fell, it could see all these being related. These batteries are comically poorly mounted as it is.


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The other guys are quick to problem solve with you. I am going to talk all voodoo

My advice?
Cut yourself open working on it and bleed on the engine. Let it know that it will not defeat you.
I feel like this is sound advice, I swear these cars have a insatiable lust for blood.

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How do you get the actual start button out of the plastic to inspect it? I can disconnect the back but I cant actually get the button out, I unthreaded it but it just hangs all wiggly jiggly haha
It was a couple of years ago that I performed the fix on my 240S, my recollection is that once you pull off the wire terminal plug it will expose the connectors of the start switch.
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Given the accident and the panel smashing into the car, I think you might have pinched a harness somewhere. If you have wires touching, shorting, or severed, pretty much ANYTHING could happen, and your symptoms are pretty all over the place

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