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New update on the Official Site

Anyone else notice that they just updated the Engine description to the us spec toyota..... lots of interesting information....said 0-60 4.9. Guess its official now for all the people wondering.
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yes, i think they have 4.7s posted for LSS also.

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1/4 mile in 13.6? That seems a bit slower from the early reports.

That's not much better than my S2K.
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1/4 mile in 13.6? That seems a bit slower from the early reports.

That's not much better than my S2K.
There is no way that this car is going to be very fast in a straight line. 13.6 is not bad. PS, I have 2 pals who own s2k's, one wiht a large turbo who runs 13.2's and one with a blower who cant do better then 13.5... My stock subaru STi went 13.2 on its first pass!

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1/4 mile in 13.6? That seems a bit slower from the early reports.
I think it's reasonable. I think the 12 second range Road and Track mention was very optimistic. I'm a bit skeptical of the 4.9/4.7 second time also. Well, at 7,000rpm clutch drop...yeah.

Here are some stats on other car's 0 to 60 and 1/4 miles. The source is from auto magazine. But then again, it's really inaccurate to compare because there are so many variables.
But for what it's worth (ball park figures):

2002 911 C2 coupe
0 to 60: 4.9 seconds
1/4: 13.4 at 105 mph

2000 Honda S2000
0 to 60: 5.2 seconds
1/4: 13.8 at 100 mph

2003 Boxster S
0 to 60: 5.3 seconds
1/4: 13.8 at 102 mph

And I thought I'd add a car that was made for 1/4 miles and 0-60's:

2003 SRT10 Viper
0 to 60: 3.9 seconds
1/4: 12.1 at 121 mph

Again, just pall park figures for magazine. If I'm right the 911, Boxster, S2000, and Elise need higher rpm clutch drops that any owner over the age of 20 would want to use.

Oh, here's the source of my info:
http://www.car-stats.com/stats/default.aspx
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1/4 mile in 13.6? That seems a bit slower from the early reports.

That's not much better than my S2K.

Our 111R down in Australia did a 13.7 last friday night at local drag strip. The 13.6 seems spot on.

Only one problem , the stock clutch does not like it at all.

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No "new" info here, but here's the info from the official site:


Lotus Elise

Engine: Toyota supplied, 4 cylinder, dohc 4 valves per cylinder with variable valve timing and lift
Capacity: 1796 cm3
Bore/Stroke: 82.0 mm / 85.0 mm
Maximum Power: 190 hp (141 kW) @ 7800 rpm (DIN 70020)
Maximum Torque: 138 lb ft (181 Nm) @ 6800 rpm (DIN 70020)
Compression Ratio: 11.5 : 1
Fuel tank Capacity: 10.5 U.S. gallons
Gearbox/Clutch: 6-speed close ratio with single dry plate clutch

Ratios -
First: 3.17:1
Second: 2.05:1
Third: 1.48:1
Fourth: 1.17:1
Fifth: 0.92:1
Sixth: 0.81:1
Final drive: 4.53:1
Reverse: 3.25:1

Technical Data
Wheels: 8-spoke cast alloy
Front - 5.5J x 16, Rear - 7.5J x 17
Tyres: Yokohama Advan Neova AD07
Front - 175/55 R16, Rear - 225/45 R17

Performance
0-60 mph: 4.9 sec, 4.7 sec (Sports Pack)
0-100 mph: 13.0 sec
Standing 1/4: circa 13.6 sec
Top speed: 150 mph
0 - 100 mph - 0: circa 17.5 sec
100 mph - 0: circa 85m

Fuel consumption: to be finalized prior to launch

Curb weight: under 2000 lbs to be finalized prior to launch. Full fuel, road ready, no passengers
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Our 111R down in Australia did a 13.7 last friday night at local drag strip. The 13.6 seems spot on.

exactly, how do we know how strong or reliable the clutch and transmission is? after all they are toyota parts for $18,000 cars. I had to replace my clutch and transmission on my civic once cuz i revved it a lot. What guarantee do we have that these parts will last? I'm certainly not going to go through that again with my elise. I mean, it's a high performance sports car and should be able to withstand spirited driving. did lotus rework or reinforce the transmission/clutch?

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Our 111R down in Australia did a 13.7 last friday night at local drag strip.
Just curious, what was the trap speed? They say it will do 0-100 in 13.0 so I'm assuming it was going faster than that? I admit, I was expecting (hoping for) faster times as well.

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Our 111R down in Australia did a 13.7 last friday night at local drag strip. The 13.6 seems spot on.

Only one problem , the stock clutch does not like it at all.

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I guess your 111R is modified also? ie, cold air & exhaust ?

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Call me crazy

You may think I'm crazy, but when I first saw an Elise in '97 and read about its handling, I would have been very happy to have one with the 118 horsepower Rover engine (at least I think that's about what the first ones put out), so 190 horsepower just sounds wunnerful to me. I don't think I want to abuse the clutch and the rest of the drive train to see how fast I can do 0-60. Besides, I used to drag race my '70 AMX and before long, the only excitement was trying to get it hauled down from 115 on wrinkle wall slicks on a too short, bumpy shutdown area. The real joy of the Elise is about just driving it.
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Unfortunately a lot of people seem to think this is going to be stoplight racer, they'll probably be disappointed. That said, I think the acceleration is quite nice on the Toyota powered elise. I'm sure we'll have those who won't be happy until they have a 400 hp elise, oh well.
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Unfortunately a lot of people seem to think this is going to be stoplight racer, they'll probably be disappointed. That said, I think the acceleration is quite nice on the Toyota powered elise. I'm sure we'll have those who won't be happy until they have a 400 hp elise, oh well.
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Nice is a good word for it ...

I had a Nissan 200sx with 180kw atw before the 111R. Below 4000rpm, the Nissan was lethargic, but above 4000 it was a rocket.

By comparison, the Elise has "good" acceleration in a straight line. Power hungry buyers will likely be dissappointed.

But on corners and under brakes, the Elise is something else!

Tonight I took a tight right hand bend at 6000rpm in third at over 100km/h ... I came rapidly on a slow car [50km/h] in my lane and changed lanes mid corner without backing off the accelerator at all ... the elise simply changed track like it was on rails.

In any other car I would have felt committed to the line, and the only choice would have been to gently come off the accelerator and apply the brakes to scrub off speed.

With the Elise, you have full control at speed, mid corner - its awesome!

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I guess your 111R is modified also? ie, cold air & exhaust ?

Cheers,

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Nev,

Yes we were playing around with a few parts in development. I personally would not use an Elise as a drag car. The clutch does NOT like it at all and it won't last you if you play drag racer.

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