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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 08-23-2017, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
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Shift Cable Damaged?

Is this cable with the inner showing bad?
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Both of mine had the shrink wrap slide off and are rusty. Been that way for probably 60k miles. Looks fine to me.


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That's bad. On it's way to complete failure and leave you stranded...It happened to me.
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I am with silicon. Mine are like that and have been for a while. I have 190,000 km on my car.

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This is what can happen next...we've seen it many times now.



If your budget allows, cables likes ours are a worthwhile upgrade as the strength and feel will improve.

Plus the peace of mind is another bonus...

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@Roundabout - See the area on the wire-wound sheath right next to the crimped end which has no rust compared to the the rest of it which is rusted? That may be evidence that the sheath has pulled out of the crimped end by at least the amount not rusted. I'd be replacing the cable.

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@Roundabout - See the area on the wire-wound sheath right next to the crimped end which has no rust compared to the the rest of it which is rusted? That may be evidence that the sheath has pulled out of the crimped end by at least the amount not rusted. I'd be replacing the cable.

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That's exactly what I was thinking. The non-rusted area must have pulled out or have some magical substance to prevent rust on just that portion. I setup the image so that you'll get the hi-res version if it's clicked on. The hi-res photo makes the clean section of the cable more obvious.
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This thread makes me want to walk outside and look at my shifter cables!

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Is this cable with the inner showing bad?
That is REALLY bad. Replace immediately. You're taking a big gamble driving around with it like that.

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How hard is it to replace the cables?
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How hard is it to replace the cables?
Depends on a couple of things.

First, do you have a lift? Can be done without one but not as easily.

Second, can you tilt your clam? You are going to have to be able to get the shifter mechanism on the trans. There are a lot of hoses in the way which makes it a pain.

Minimum time would be about two hours but as long as a day and a lot of choice words trying to reach all of the nuts and bolts.

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I don't have a lift, but I have a clam hinge. I bought some used cables from the for sale area, but if this is a pain, I may buy some aftermarket replacements. The car only has 35k miles on it. I guess the shifter cables are just a weak point.

On my other manuals with rod shifters, it's not hard to put the trans in 3rd gear and drive it home like that. This is my only cable-shifted car. Can I manually engage a gear?
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I don't have a lift, but I have a clam hinge. I bought some used cables from the for sale area, but if this is a pain, I may buy some aftermarket replacements. The car only has 35k miles on it. I guess the shifter cables are just a weak point.

On my other manuals with rod shifters, it's not hard to put the trans in 3rd gear and drive it home like that. This is my only cable-shifted car. Can I manually engage a gear?
Yes, you can shift the car by hand if you can get your hand down in there. The other option is to put the car in the air, pull the bottom trays and reach around the front of the trans. Neither is going to be much fun but doable.

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I don't have a lift...
I changed out my cables without a lift - no problem. You do need access to the underside and I achieved that by putting the car up on Rhino ramps stacked on 4-1/2" of blocks. I do recommend you tilt your clam back though (or for others reading this who don't have a clam hinge, remove the clam). Access with the clam in place is possible but I'd describe it as extremely difficult and frustrating and likely to take more time than tilting (or even removing and replacing) the clam.

@Roundabout - I definitely recommend aftermarket cables over the OEM cables. I have a set of SSC cables purchased before S111 started marketing theirs. The difference was so apparent I threw away my 1 year old OEM cables - they were junk in comparison. I'd expect the S111 cables - now InoKinetic - to be just as good as the SSC cables.

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Mine at the 8 year, 190,000 km mark. I think they have been this way for many years.
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How hard is it to replace the cables?
Give us a call and we can talk you through the installation.

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Mine at the 8 year, 190,000 km mark. I think they have been this way for many years.
I can't tell, is this a cry for help? Or is this like the guy with the lifted truck that drove through mud on the weekend then runs around all week that way?

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I guess I am seeking opinions on the cables, (so possibly a cry for help).

Are they going to fall apart? If the concensus opinion is yes, then I'd have the dealer replace them. My gut feeling though is that only the insulation has pulled free not the cables.

I quoted the high mileage just for context. If they have held up for this long, I suspect they will continue to work (so maybe the weekend mud guy).

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...I quoted the high mileage just for context. If they have held up for this long, I suspect they will continue to work.
This may be the case, but I've seen several in this condition that were in the process of failing. When the cables start to degrade they tend to get stiff and the shifter requires more effort. Does yours still shift smoothly?

I think installing our cables becomes a preventative measure that may save you from being stranded.

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The dealer asked me about the shifter cables a few years ago. They asked if shifting felt poor. It did not at that time. It also continues to feel normal and shift easily.

What I'd like to know is how these cables are attached. Are they simply crimped into position? Is there any way to determine if they have pulled out?
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