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For those of you that have installed 3M Crystalline on your front windshield, do you have any issues with distortion when looking out the windshield?

I just had mine done several days ago, and the distortion is still there, especially when I look at a lane line when driving. The line looks jagged, instead of one solid line. The installer says that it might get better over time, but that it could be because the windshield has such a steep angle to it. So far it's been garaged the whole time. So, I'm going to leave it out in the heat tomorrow (108F) and see if it gets better. I hope it goes away, because the film seems to be helping with the heat.

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How much did the install run you?
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Get it in the heat, and it takes a LONG time but will clear out smooth eventually. It does work wonders for your AC though doesn't it?

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My installation is great, no problems. Anyone who is considering tinting should understand that Crystalline is state of the art and unlike any other film. It is expensive compared to other tints but you get what you pay for. Dramatically reduces solar heat in the cockpit, helping the A/C to work better.
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For those of you that have installed 3M Crystalline on your front windshield, do you have any issues with distortion when looking out the windshield?

I just had mine done several days ago, and the distortion is still there, especially when I look at a lane line when driving. The line looks jagged, instead of one solid line. The installer says that it might get better over time, but that it could be because the windshield has such a steep angle to it. So far it's been garaged the whole time. So, I'm going to leave it out in the heat tomorrow (108F) and see if it gets better. I hope it goes away, because the film seems to be helping with the heat.
Get it in the heat as recommended above and see what happens. I pit Solarguard nano film on mine a while back (the 3m film was not out ) and it help a bunch. The installer should stand behind it if it does not clear up, I used Airpark Tint in Scottsdale for mine and there is no distortion.

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How much did the install run you?
It was $340 for the windshield and side windows.

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It was $340 for the windshield and side windows.
That's not too bad at all. As others have stated it will definitely need to sit in the sun for a bit. I usually let my new tint sit in out for a good 3 days, but that's CO sun, not AZ sun.

I can't imagine how you guys stand that heat.
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My reason was to reduce solar heat in the cockpit. Other's, I imagine, like the darker look.
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What Viper said -- to cut down on the heat coming through. I can feel the car get instantly hot when I'm going down the road, and making a left hand turn into the sun.

I wish they had a perfectly clear film, but the closest I could come was the 3M film at 70% light transmission, and 50% heat rejection. It definitely works.

I parked the car in the sun all day today, and the distortion didn't seem any different. I guess I'll keep parking outside for a while and see what happens. May be the distraction will go away in time.

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Don't own one yet? The a/c is kinda weak.

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Actually, by automotive glass standards, 70% is considered clear. 70% is what regular glass is on cars, therefore the installation of 70% Crystalline makes no difference.
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What Viper said -- to cut down on the heat coming through. I can feel the car get instantly hot when I'm going down the road, and making a left hand turn into the sun.

I wish they had a perfectly clear film, but the closest I could come was the 3M film at 70% light transmission, and 50% heat rejection. It definitely works.

I parked the car in the sun all day today, and the distortion didn't seem any different. I guess I'll keep parking outside for a while and see what happens. May be the distraction will go away in time.
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Will the 3M tint also protect the windshield from rock chips? I have been looking for a product that would works like Starshield for the windshield.

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Will the 3M tint also protect the windshield from rock chips? I have been looking for a product that would works like Starshield for the windshield.

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No. Window tint goes inside the window.

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Tint films are always applied to the inside of the glass. Of course there have been a few reports of rocks impacting the inside of rear window, I guess in this case the film may offer some protection.
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Actually, by automotive glass standards, 70% is considered clear. 70% is what regular glass is on cars, therefore the installation of 70% Crystalline makes no difference.
Well, you're half right. Regular glass has 70% light transmission, the same as the 3M film. But by placing the film onto the glass, the light transmission is now 0.7 x 0.7 = 0.49, so now only 49% of the light is reaching the interior, instead of the 70% with the Lotus glass. The windshield now looks slightly darker with the film, but it's not obnoxiously dark.

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While I agree with the mathmatics, in practice it is not apparent.
Top of the window is single layer of 70%
Bottom of the window is a double layer of 70%
(can just make out the horizontal line)
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Well, you're half right. Regular glass has 70% light transmission, the same as the 3M film. But by placing the film onto the glass, the light transmission is now 0.7 x 0.7 = 0.49, so now only 49% of the light is reaching the interior, instead of the 70% with the Lotus glass. The windshield now looks slightly darker with the film, but it's not obnoxiously dark.
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Lotus installs tinted glass (according to their website and literature), but it only does so much I suppose. It would be an interesting test to have two like cars, same color interior, left in sunshine with identical thermometers inside each, one car with stock windows, one with 3M Crystalline.
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I did before and after temperature readings. The surface temperature reduction was approx. 25'F.

QUOTE=JoeTodd;1075411]Lotus installs tinted glass (according to their website and literature), but it only does so much I suppose. It would be an interesting test to have two like cars, same color interior, left in sunshine with identical thermometers inside each, one car with stock windows, one with 3M Crystalline.[/QUOTE]
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