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post #41 of 51 (permalink) Old 07-17-2019, 01:29 PM
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I can't quite afford one (: but the PR for Lotus must be massive. When people are now inspired to go into a dealer and discover they can buy a brand-new 400 for $85,000, they will feel like billionaires. Let's bask in the temporary glory. As Lotus enthusiasts, this should make us all happy.
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. I though the US has finally come around to accepting side cameras, which this has.
My $22,000 Honda Civic Si has a side camera. Itís really useful , all cars should have them. Especially mid engined.

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It's disappointing, if perhaps predictable, that Lotus is going in this direction. An electric drive train provides the means for supercar performance at historical Lotus pricing. I'm already driving a Tesla Model 3 that can do 0-60 in 3.3 seconds all day long. It handles amazingly well for a heavy car and is as much fun to drive as the Elise. Lotus should be taking a similar drive train and putting it in a lighter, better-handling, better-looking chassis. They would sell tons of them and would further the brand. Instead they will struggle to sell this new hypercar, as the Lotus brand is simply not in the same dictionary as Lamborghini and McLaren. Lotus is a value brand, which hypercars are, almost by definition, not. I mean even the new Tesla Roadster, at $200k, will crush this Lotus.

All that said, I'm happy to see that Lotus is realizing the ICE age is over.

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Shmee just posted a video on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSmaPghu2fg
Thanks for posting but Shmee is just intolerable past three seconds.

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It is up to the discretion of the NHTSA whether this gets approved under that rule or not. It is not a given.
They claim it's based on technical/historical significance and low production. Much less significant and higher production cars have made the cut.

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It's disappointing, if perhaps predictable, that Lotus is going in this direction. An electric drive train provides the means for supercar performance at historical Lotus pricing. I'm already driving a Tesla Model 3 that can do 0-60 in 3.3 seconds all day long. It handles amazingly well for a heavy car and is as much fun to drive as the Elise. Lotus should be taking a similar drive train and putting it in a lighter, better-handling, better-looking chassis. They would sell tons of them and would further the brand. Instead they will struggle to sell this new hypercar, as the Lotus brand is simply not in the same dictionary as Lamborghini and McLaren. Lotus is a value brand, which hypercars are, almost by definition, not. I mean even the new Tesla Roadster, at $200k, will crush this Lotus.

All that said, I'm happy to see that Lotus is realizing the ICE age is over.
You lost me at Tesla Model 3 being as much fun to drive as an Elise
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You lost me at Tesla Model 3 being as much fun to drive as an Elise
My M3P (performance) is an absolute blast to drive. It's completely tossable and runs 3.1 0-60's all day long. Stoplight assassin.

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We've learned that Lotus will be bringing the Evija to Monterey in 2 weeks!

First, on Friday Aug 16 at the Quail Car Show (where Lotus is a premiere sponsor) and then again on the lawn on Sunday Aug 18 at the Pebble Beach Concours.

Tickets to Quail are near impossible to get, but it's still possible to get into Pebble. Some of us "locals" with the Golden Gate Lotus Club will try to get to both events and share photos and video during the weekend.

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It handles amazingly well for a heavy car and is as much fun to drive as the Elise.
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Lotus should be taking a similar drive train and putting it in a lighter, better-handling, better-looking chassis.
This already happened. It was called the Tesla Roadster. I am pretty sure another company tried as well called Detroit Electric and as far as I know its dead in the water.

Also, you're assuming this won't happen. Lotus explicitly said that the tech from the Evija will trickle down.

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They would sell tons of them and would further the brand.
No they wouldn't. There are probably tens, if not hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of people who just realized Lotus either existed or still existed when they heard about the Evija. This is the point of the Evija. To bring new brand awareness, create a flag ship car, to take what they learned from the Evija and apply that to their new line-up of cars. I really don't understand why some people don't get this. Whether it will work or not will remains to be seen, but I think you are fooling yourself to think if Lotus just released a new electric Elise-like car that it would have sold well, it most like would not. Lotus still has a lot of work to do and a big one is their dealership network. It makes way more sense to start at the top and whittle your way down than to start at the bottom and try to fight your way up.

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Instead they will struggle to sell this new hypercar, as the Lotus brand is simply not in the same dictionary as Lamborghini and McLaren.
And they won't get there by making an electric Elise. Its funny you mention McLaren because I don't remember McLaren starting out making a $60k budget McLaren and working their way up. They made a hypercar, and then to reinvigorate the brand they made another hypercar. Flagship cars for any company are rarely money makers they are to show off their tech and design.

The good news is that Lotus has stated they still want to make cars in their current price brackets. Whether they do or not remains to be seen.

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I mean even the new Tesla Roadster, at $200k, will crush this Lotus.
It will crush it how? Definitely not looks. Price? I don't think someone looking at a Evija is doing comparing shopping with the Roadster. Ones a limited production exotic hypercar, the other is not. I don't think Lotus would do all that work on the Evija knowing it would get crushed by the Roadster, sorry, that just doesn't make sense.
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For me the Evija's flaw is that it is meaningless in my automotive universe. As a statement, it's fine. As a product, it is irrelevant to me. A matter of passing interest only.

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