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Elise vs. 4C comparison

Check out my daughter's comparison review on the Elise vs. the 4C.

GirlsDriveFastToo | 2015 Alfa Romeo 4C Coupe Goes Head-To-Head With The Lotus Elise


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Great read! Liked the video as well!
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Good Review ! Cars really are an extension of the people driving them. Well, most people, that is. I cannot understand when someone tells me that they don't care about the car they're driving ; as long as it takes them from A to B. . Picking and choosing a car is half the fun for me

Funny : she mentions that, "if you don't look back after parking the car, you've purchased the wrong car".... that's exactly what I do EVERY time I park my Elise : I look back at it
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I was very impressed with her writing style. Well done!

In addition the review was quite interesting.

However for me, as long as there are true manual transmissions available I could never buy a dual clutch car.

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I like the upgraded interior in that Elise!

Having never seen the 4C in person I'm still excited about the possibility of picking one up. Regardless of how I feel after seeing/driving I'm glad there are still car companies producing these low volume niche cars for us...
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its funny that all the reviews of the alfa say things that echo things about the elise

small, awkward ingress/egress, complaints about interior, raw/great steering input, sticks to the road, exciting etc, etc, etc

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Nice review Thanks for sharing, Ron.

And that's a really nice interior on the Elise!

Fight ON!
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I've driven them both. The Alfa is awesome. "Collect them ALL!"

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NIcely done. Just look at how much of the Elise design the Alfa blatantly ripped off!
Compare an Exige S to the Alfa BTW.

As a former owner of a 164L which was a great car, I hope they get it right, but... given that Fiat and Chrysler are in cahoots I'm not so sure.

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Good Review ! Cars really are an extension of the people driving them. Well, most people, that is. I cannot understand when someone tells me that they don't care about the car they're driving ; as long as it takes them from A to B. . Picking and choosing a car is half the fun for me

Funny : she mentions that, "if you don't look back after parking the car, you've purchased the wrong car".... that's exactly what I do EVERY time I park my Elise : I look back at it
Those people drive Camry's. Only reason they'd ever look back is to see the parking slot # so they don't get in wrong car.

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I've not driven a 4C, but the woman I spoke with "took" hers from her husband. I'd say that at least for her there was something desirable about the car that made her want it. My guess is the sound, considering she roared away in front of a large crowd.

Why the negativity regarding the car? It's an Elise built with modern safety standards in mind. The gain of 400 or 500 pounds to achieve that seems reasonable. The Miata is closing in on the Elise weight, and that also complies fully with modern safety standards.

Great quote about looking back.
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Enjoyed watching the video. Very concise and informative.
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Great read. Thanks for sharing. That 4c is dead sexy.!
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I've not driven a 4C, but the woman I spoke with "took" hers from her husband. I'd say that at least for her there was something desirable about the car that made her want it. My guess is the sound, considering she roared away in front of a large crowd.

Why the negativity regarding the car? It's an Elise built with modern safety standards in mind. The gain of 400 or 500 pounds to achieve that seems reasonable. The Miata is closing in on the Elise weight, and that also complies fully with modern safety standards.

Great quote about looking back.
Lest see , poor ride, awkward handling on the limit, not such great steering.
Elise, well sorted ride, sublime handling, great steerign, bucket of botlts sounding engine.
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NEW Miata dropped 300lbs btw. Nothing against it , just without any American quality control, a FIAT aka Alfa is a scary proposition. Realize Chrysler has, by far, the most bottom of the barrel vehicles in the entire industry in reliability, build quality etc reviews. 2 bad companies don't somehow end up having a healthy spawn (Alfa). Hell 2?3 of the 5?6 Guilas in its test fleet have died already

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Honestly, as a Lotus owner, I'm not going to throw any reliability stones at anyone. If for no other reason than to avoid jinxing myself.
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Lest see , poor ride, awkward handling on the limit, not such great steering.
Elise, well sorted ride, sublime handling, great steerign, bucket of botlts sounding engine.
The handling is fine on the 4C. I had one for 2 yrs and developed quite a few upgrades for it: HERE. The car needs to have a proper alignment (like the Elise) and then it is superb. The ride comfort of a Sport Pack Elise is worse than the 4C. The 4C has better fit and finish. The 4C delivers torque in bucket loads.

To me, it splits the difference between an Elise and an Evora. It is a fun car and certainly one that every enthusiasts should drive. If I had to pick only one car? Elise would be my choice.

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I test drove a 4C and it was a blast! It was a special order unit here in Vegas with a "track Pack?" Not sure but it also had a carbon fiber roof and tons of cool things the other 4C's on the lot didn't have. Unfortunately a 4C is not in the cards for me right now or I would have jumped on it. Since it was a special order that wasn't picked up they were selling it for right at the cost of the others. Would have been a good deal.
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Got rid of my elise then moved to porsche now on to 4c.

4c is similar to elise, but as shinoo put it, better fit and finish- more exotic with exposed cf tubs (just like aluminium exposed inside like elise) and massive torque (not figuratively but car being superlight, it really kicks you everytime you put your foot on the pedal) . thought that I would not like the dct transmission but now that i have it and been driving around, my hands are very busy with steering input enough to forget about the shift change. Also DCT might not be the fastest in the market but it is super quick.

I have optional alfa race exhaust (essentially no muffler, just straight pipes) sounds super nice but super loud. also have track packs.

In terms of handling, it is really very similar to elise/exiege not better nor worse. In terms of available aftermarket support, pretty similar to lotus but since it is quite limited and new, companies are still developing.

HP figures and Tq figures are established and published very low. A lot of 4c owners have dynoed and readings are a whole lot higher than what Alfa has advertised. With the simple replacement ecu, it pushes quite high numbers without much work.

overall I love it. However, once the 400 is made available in canada, I will switch to 400.
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NEW Miata dropped 300lbs btw. Nothing against it , just without any American quality control, a FIAT aka Alfa is a scary proposition. Realize Chrysler has, by far, the most bottom of the barrel vehicles in the entire industry in reliability, build quality etc reviews. 2 bad companies don't somehow end up having a healthy spawn (Alfa). Hell 2?3 of the 5?6 Guilas in its test fleet have died already
Just to be precise, 4c isnt built in America. 4C is built in Modena, Italy by Maserati unlike Guilia .
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