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David, your user info still lists your location as "Encino."

How is Topeka treating you?
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zvezdah1,

I'd try to sleep, but now I'm afraid I'll have nightmares of zit-faced Elises!

Davard,

Its funny about the air vents, because the first time I sat in a Mazda 6, I thought the air vents looked just like the ones in the Murcielago! (minus the little bulls on the fins, of course)
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it'll be out of my price range until after my wife finishes school in 5 years).
You married a 13-year old woman?
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got my road & track at the news stand today for those of you waiting.

Got it in Phoenix at the airport.
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Just a quick word about the looping of a midengined car. There is a quick and simple fix. Just keep the throttle pressed in. You are sliding out? More throttle. It goes against everything you think in your brain but it works every time. (unless you are going too fast for the situation, but you will just slide off vs spin off...)

Its the porsche mantra, just listen real close to any porsche driver as s/he is going into the turns on the track. "Don't lift, don't lift, don't lift, don't lift....."
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Just a quick word about the looping of a midengined car. There is a quick and simple fix. Just keep the throttle pressed in. You are sliding out? More throttle. It goes against everything you think in your brain but it works every time. (unless you are going too fast for the situation, but you will just slide off vs spin off...)

Its the porsche mantra, just listen real close to any porsche driver as s/he is going into the turns on the track. "Don't lift, don't lift, don't lift, don't lift....."
It's a bit more complicated than that...if you've ever driven a mid-engine car.

It's damn near impossible to spin out my X. If I do...it spins like a top and there really is no way to save it...its too neutral.

Now, when I drove the sunspeed S1, I pushed the back out a lot easier than I thought I could (too much gas on a tight corner), and I used your reasoning...don't lift. However, I didnt need more gas because that is what got me in trouble in the first place. I just had to ease the gas, and I saved it. This was on a car, that although is midmounted, carried more weight in the rear. And God forbid you lift, making the back end light with all that weight would certainly throw you into a spin.

But these cars are not porsches. And for those of us who have had the fortunate opportunity to spin an old porsche know how beastly an old 911 is to handle. The elise is WAY more neutral and more refined. I am very curious how it will handle with the new powerplant. I wonder how a 914-6 handles?

However, now I am screwed. I've been driving a front-wheel drive car for too long. Now in corners, I trail break, get the back end nice and light and rotating, then slam the gas to lock up the back end and pull myself out of the corner.

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David, your user info still lists your location as "Encino."

How is Topeka treating you?
The weather hasn't gotten nasty (yet), although I do have one less (well, half) shingle on the roof after a nasty wind storm.

Also, casement windows don't like winds much above 15-20mph.

And 3200 sq.ft. is going to take a lot of furniture to fill.

On the bright side, I get to (have to?) mow my own lawn.

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Just noticed you guys debating that 1/4 mile figure on page 1. We don't measure 1/4 miles in the UK really (not generally), that is almost certainly the 0-100mph time but I suspect its a guess not measured anyway.

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I'm pissed off at Road&Track. They never mentioned how many cup holders the US Elise will have.

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I'm pissed off at Road&Track. They never mentioned how many cup holders the US Elise will have.
So long as there's two holders big enough for grande lattes, two cellphone holders/chargers, and room in the trunk for two sets of golf clubs, does it really matter? And those airvents will make excellent mounting points for an aftermarket SatNav/TV system Sweeeet.

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lol, what took you so long Gareth?

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Hello.

I'm kinda suppressing new car thoughts at the moment. R&T arriving reminded me about the Elise and a google dropped me here. Made me laugh.

mrs. gareth is entertaining the idea of replacing the Spyder with an Elise in due course, which is cool. She's only briefly driven a S1 before - I guess she was smitten

BTW, why is Little Richard in your avatar?

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BTW, why is Little Richard in your avatar?
Good golly! I thought it was Tony Orlando!

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The airbag steering wheel in the VX is one inch bigger than the europe elise Mk1 AFAIK.
Black Rims ? Depends a lot on color of the car, me thinks. I like black because brake dust is not that visible.


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