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Oil Cooler Hose Popped last night.

So, on the way home from work yesterday, at about 70 in 6th, the engine power dropped. I looked and the oil light was on. I killed the engine, clutch in and coasted up an off ramp to a side street. Oil everywhere, from the front. Towed home. Phun.

As the warranty is long expired (2006 Elise), I suppose I could get the lines replaced under the recall, but what about the motor? Condition is unknown at this time.

Bringing the car to a dealer will likely cost me more than just buying the hoses and replacing them myself.

What I'm thinking here is to cut the lines, temporarily splice them together with a double hose barb and some clamps, add some oil, pull the plugs/fuel pump fuse, crank for a while to push oil through the system, then put the plugs/fuse back in and see what it sounds like. Death rattle would indicate popped motor.

If the motor is popped, is there some particular year 2ZZGE that is the correct replacement? I mean, there's a lot of them out there at junk yards, or maybe JDM places. Are all the years the same or do I need one particular year to search for?

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I wouldn't touch anything. Tow to dealer. Try and get new lines and engine via recall.
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So, on the way home from work yesterday, at about 70 in 6th, the engine power dropped. I looked and the oil light was on. I killed the engine, clutch in and coasted up an off ramp to a side street. Oil everywhere, from the front. Towed home. Phun.

As the warranty is long expired (2006 Elise), I suppose I could get the lines replaced under the recall, but what about the motor? Condition is unknown at this time.

Bringing the car to a dealer will likely cost me more than just buying the hoses and replacing them myself.

What I'm thinking here is to cut the lines, temporarily splice them together with a double hose barb and some clamps, add some oil, pull the plugs/fuel pump fuse, crank for a while to push oil through the system, then put the plugs/fuse back in and see what it sounds like. Death rattle would indicate popped motor.

If the motor is popped, is there some particular year 2ZZGE that is the correct replacement? I mean, there's a lot of them out there at junk yards, or maybe JDM places. Are all the years the same or do I need one particular year to search for?

Ideas/comments?
If you brought it to dealer, then your engine - if damaged - would also be replaced under warranty....from what I read here.

So, if you find or suspect damage....

And, I think the lines are fine; only the fittings need repair.

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Well, I put a call in to voice mail at Lotus USA. I guess that's all I can do for today.

So, where's the nearest dealer to NW Arkansas? Anything in Oklahoma? KC?

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I believe the closest to us will be either the DFW area or St Louis....

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Lotus of plano in dallas is about 6 to 7 weeks behind on appointments!
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Apparently LoP has 1 guy that works on Lotus. Anyone have any good experiences with a Houston dealer? Dr.L is always keen on a trip to Hou (grandbabies...) If I have to drag it to Dallas, Houston isn't that much further and I think my Truck knows the way by itself.

Anyway, gotta wait for HQ to see what's up.

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So, on the way home from work yesterday, at about 70 in 6th, the engine power dropped. I looked and the oil light was on. I killed the engine, clutch in and coasted up an off ramp to a side street. Oil everywhere, from the front. Towed home. Phun.

As the warranty is long expired (2006 Elise), I suppose I could get the lines replaced under the recall, but what about the motor? Condition is unknown at this time.

Bringing the car to a dealer will likely cost me more than just buying the hoses and replacing them myself.

What I'm thinking here is to cut the lines, temporarily splice them together with a double hose barb and some clamps, add some oil, pull the plugs/fuel pump fuse, crank for a while to push oil through the system, then put the plugs/fuse back in and see what it sounds like. Death rattle would indicate popped motor.

If the motor is popped, is there some particular year 2ZZGE that is the correct replacement? I mean, there's a lot of them out there at junk yards, or maybe JDM places. Are all the years the same or do I need one particular year to search for?

Ideas/comments?
I have had my 2005 Oil cooler and lines replaced twice. Once about 1 1/2 years ago, after the same thing happened to me. Then again 2 weeks ago under the recall. It is a big job, clam off. I also had the radiator replaced with an aluminum one from Monkey wrench racing. The dealer had told me about two Elises's that had there radiators spring leaks. One was on the rack in the service bay. And the other on a race track, the guy lost the motor. If you have the clam for the recall, it is only about three hours labor for the radiator. The radiator from Monkey wrench was not a perfect fit. The mechanic said that the hose attachment points were a little off. So it needed a little fiddling.
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I scheduled my oil line cooler recall which is about 3 weeks out. I was just wondering if my oil cooler lines fail before the scheduled appointment and the engine gets damaged that LotusUSA will replace the engone at not cost to the customer. Is there any document stating this. thanks!


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hey i had my oil lines blow too... only mine was right after i turned the car on, i quickly turned it off. The dealer told me if the engine got screwed they would change it as well. my car is out of warranty and thats what they said. After inspection and new oil lines, the engine was not affected, so i was lucky....(or unlucky i guess haha could have had a new engine)

take it to dealer, you wont pay anything and they will fix it for you.

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Just loaded the car onto the car hauler 18 wheeler. Heading for St. Louis.

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my question is this....WHY HAVE YOU NOT DONE THE RECALL ALREADY?

hello to everyone reading this: LOTUS HAS A RECALL FOR THIS EXACT REASON...REPEAT A RECALL HAS BEEN ISSUES TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING.

oh that won't happen to my car should not enter your mind when dealing with this problem...GO GET IT DONE and stop the above scenario from happening to you.

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my question is this....WHY HAVE YOU NOT DONE THE RECALL ALREADY?

hello to everyone reading this: LOTUS HAS A RECALL FOR THIS EXACT REASON...REPEAT A RECALL HAS BEEN ISSUES TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING.

oh that won't happen to my car should not enter your mind when dealing with this problem...GO GET IT DONE and stop the above scenario from happening to you.
^^ Exactly ^^

A known problem, and then what happens... People think it will not happen to me?
Why people do not get these fixed is unfathomable.
How much is the cost of oil lines compared to oil lines, oil, an engine, towing and cleaning?
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my question is this....WHY HAVE YOU NOT DONE THE RECALL ALREADY?

hello to everyone reading this: LOTUS HAS A RECALL FOR THIS EXACT REASON...REPEAT A RECALL HAS BEEN ISSUES TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING.

oh that won't happen to my car should not enter your mind when dealing with this problem...GO GET IT DONE and stop the above scenario from happening to you.
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^^ Exactly ^^

A known problem, and then what happens... People think it will not happen to me?
Why people do not get these fixed is unfathomable.
How much is the cost of oil lines compared to oil lines, oil, an engine, towing and cleaning?
Of course.

Some of us drive a lot of long distances. What a hassle to come up with a bad radiator or broken fittings in the midst of a trip.

If coolant or, more likely, oil were to coat a tire (or brakes) at an inopportune
time, a bad crash could ensue.

Is "cause & effect" no longer taught?

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Same thing happened to me. I went to change lanes at about 70mph and noticed the car felt like it was on ice then the oil light came on and I shut it down. The dealer had it towed at no cost
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My car was in the latest expansion of the recall (oct '07 build) which just became official (letters reportedly mailed yesterday). I just scheduled the service, and I'm getting a pro alloy radiator installed at the same time. Lotus keeps gradually expanding the recall to include newer cars, my guess is they didn't want to flood their modest dealer network so they intentionally spread it out. Of course they could never admit to that.

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my question is this....WHY HAVE YOU NOT DONE THE RECALL ALREADY?

hello to everyone reading this: LOTUS HAS A RECALL FOR THIS EXACT REASON...REPEAT A RECALL HAS BEEN ISSUES TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING.

oh that won't happen to my car should not enter your mind when dealing with this problem...GO GET IT DONE and stop the above scenario from happening to you.
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^^ Exactly ^^

A known problem, and then what happens... People think it will not happen to me?
Why people do not get these fixed is unfathomable.
How much is the cost of oil lines compared to oil lines, oil, an engine, towing and cleaning?
I called a dealer to schedule back in the first part of February.
Earliest appointment - Mid march.

They were getting "several" calls per week on the recall and were swamped between that and normal business.
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Yeah, well... Recall notices came out officially about 2 months ago. Cars are 7-8 years old. What's a month? POP.

Anyone in the Midwest, St. Louis seems to have some time available, when he finishes mine.

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