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post #21 of 76 (permalink) Old 04-13-2017, 07:07 PM
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What did you decide on for a tip?
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What did you decide on for a tip?
brushed. You think a fancy tip may be better? I like how functional this looks but am open to ideas. We have time to decide as our supplier is going to need two weeks to finish the first article.

We put the old muffler back on yesterday. The new one is way more wicked.

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Here are a couple more shots. I really pleased with how light it is as well. It still pops and crackles - for those of you who love that...
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My opinion is to not add any tip, just leave the exhaust pipe as it is.

But I suspect I am in the minority on this issue, I never have liked tips or finishers. Much prefer the raw pipe.
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My opinion is to not add any tip, just leave the exhaust pipe as it is.

But I suspect I am in the minority on this issue, I never have liked tips or finishers. Much prefer the raw pipe.
In this case I agree. When you already have a big raw exposed muffler with exposed outlet pipe above the diffuser and then slap on a little tip at the end, it just looks cheesy. If all you can see is the tip, ie exits below the diffuser, or above but with a cover panel, then a tip looks nice.

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brushed. You think a fancy tip may be better? I like how functional this looks but am open to ideas. We have time to decide as our supplier is going to need two weeks to finish the first article.

We put the old muffler back on yesterday. The new one is way more wicked.
One of the reasons I do not like the TRACKpipe is lack of a tip.
If the can is going to be a brushed finish, I think a tip with a brushed finish just gives it a more refined and finished look.

I do not think the Larini mufflers look "cheesy" with a tip.
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Thx for your feedback.

I prefer the 'raw' tip but would agree that a finished tip can also look good. There is no way to do both unless we create a detachable tip - which is extra parts/cost and potential for drooping tips. Drooping tips were a major headache in the past for Larini and we successfully convinced them to go to a fixed solution.

The BMW e36 M3 had raw staggered tips - which I always liked. Let me try to brainstorm some ideas to see if we can find an interesting alternative.

On a side note, it seems the exotic sport exhaust market thinks that fully polished systems look too 'Made in China' and is moving towards other finishes. Even the car world is not immune to trends that come and go...

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I think the brushed finish will look good.
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I'm a big fan of the Helmholtz system Shinoo built with S111 on my 4C. Very well built and the Helmholtz chamber kills all drone while still keeping the great parts of the sound. I'd assume this one should be the same quality level.
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In my opinion polished would look really cheesy, especially with some big tip. I think a more Motorsport look, that suits what most of these cars are being used for is where it's at. Lightweight materials, exotic coatings, exposed rivets, dimple died brackets I love that stuff.
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Whats that saying? "Go big or Go Home"


All jokes aside... No pun intended

The original club sport side exit exhaust tip looks great exposed or not! Its not too big or too fancy, just right IMHO for a finished touch.

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I'd love if the below-diffuser exit sat flush like the Stage II. That's probably too much to ask though

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Shinoo, is there any packing inside this muffler? Or is it just chambers? And have you thought about some kind of black coating, or finish on the whole part?
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Tip is better. Without it the exhaust looks unfinished.
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I think a bushed or matte can with polished ends onward would be a nice touch as well.

I also personally feel that the raw pipe unfinished looks cheap and incomplete. Lets face it, if you're targeting only track rats than by all means KISS, however if you want a broader appeal with dual purpose, a finished touch is needed IMHO.
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There are always two different kind of people. How about make at least 2 tips choices.
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Shinoo, is there any packing inside this muffler? Or is it just chambers? And have you thought about some kind of black coating, or finish on the whole part?
Yes, there is a portion of the muffler with sound deadening material. Ceramic coating is possible. They have the ability to do this. I think a fully black muffler can/tip would look bitchin'

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I'd love if the below-diffuser exit sat flush like the Stage II. That's probably too much to ask though
Yes, that is what I want to do for the diffuser exit version. I always loved the look of the Stage II.

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I think a bushed or matte can with polished ends onward would be a nice touch as well.

I also personally feel that the raw pipe unfinished looks cheap and incomplete. Lets face it, if you're targeting only track rats than by all means KISS, however if you want a broader appeal with dual purpose, a finished touch is needed IMHO.
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There are always two different kind of people. How about make at least 2 tips choices.
Thx for the input guys. I agree with you. Let me see how I can bridge the gap.
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I'm scheduled to fit the production first article this coming Tues. Then production begins...late May/earlyJune is our target for parts on our shelf.
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