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Not Too Short Shift Kit

We have been happy with the simplicity of the DNA Short Shift kit. This kit reduces the throw by 38% which some people really like. My personal preference is for a bit longer throw so we commissioned a new short shifter that only reduces the throw by 19%. As a comparison, the stock shifter delivers 39.7mm of Front to rear throw. Our new kit will be 32.2mm throw vs the 24.6mm delivered by the 38% reduction kit. Crossgate (side to side) will remain like stock with both solutions.

DNA have designed it and prototyped it for us. This throw reduction will also reduce some of the slop in the overall shifter system delivering better 'feel'.

We will offer both options: 38% reduction or new 19% reduction kit. Neither are adjustable and remain fixed to their respective throw reductions. I believe that simple solutions tend to be the most reliable. Another consideration is that the 19% kit will have a lighter throw effort vs the 38% kit.

Coupled with our shiftR111 and SMOOTHoperator, this will be the ultimate shifter package.
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If you do one for the Evora shiftR - would be interesting to know your thoughts on symmetry. I feel like the Evora is a bit of a long reach forward, but back towards the driver it feels right. I don't know if the shiftR maintains that same position overall. Mainly the reach to 5th is a stretch from the seating position, but 6th is fine. It feels like the overall shift is a bit long but mostly just oddly positioned.
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If you do one for the Evora shiftR - would be interesting to know your thoughts on symmetry. I feel like the Evora is a bit of a long reach forward, but back towards the driver it feels right. I don't know if the shiftR maintains that same position overall. Mainly the reach to 5th is a stretch from the seating position, but 6th is fine. It feels like the overall shift is a bit long but mostly just oddly positioned.
The shiftR111 does not change the throw lengths. If we do one for the Evora it would likely be in the 15-20% reduction - no more.
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I am interested in this if the prototype materializes
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What's the difficulty level of the installation?

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What's the difficulty level of the installation?
Swapping out the transmission levers and re-adjusting the cables is not hard. But access is near-impossible without removing the clam.

It can be done with the clam in place, but it will take longer than the time spent removing and replacing the clam and result in lots of little cuts and large amounts of swearing.

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Swapping out the transmission levers and re-adjusting the cables is not hard. But access is near-impossible without removing the clam.

It can be done with the clam in place, but it will take longer than the time spent removing and replacing the clam and result in lots of little cuts and large amounts of swearing.

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See, this is the information to have. Thank you Glen!

It won't keep me from buying the product, it just means that I'll be buying all the parts I need to exchange at one time so that I only have to take the clam off once.

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Swapping out the transmission levers and re-adjusting the cables is not hard. But access is near-impossible without removing the clam.

It can be done with the clam in place, but it will take longer than the time spent removing and replacing the clam and result in lots of little cuts and large amounts of swearing.

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My mechanic has done this job many times so he is able to do it without clam removal. He seems to emerge unscathed with no blood letting... We will attempt to make a video of the process.

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They are in production now. The 38% reduction product is on our shelf and we have sold a dozen of them. My guess is that we will have the 19% reduction kit in 4-6weeks.

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Swapping out the transmission levers and re-adjusting the cables is not hard. But access is near-impossible without removing the clam.

It can be done with the clam in place, but it will take longer than the time spent removing and replacing the clam and result in lots of little cuts and large amounts of swearing.

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It is not that bad...there is absolutely no need to remove the clam to replace shift linkage.
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It is not that bad...there is absolutely no need to remove the clam to replace shift linkage.
My experience is with a 2011 Elise, and yes, it is that bad. I just looked at a 2005 Elise the other day and found the poor visibility and access to be very similar. If youíre able to do it clam-on, good on ya. My experience is that taking the effort to provide reasonable access makes the job a lot easier, oftentimes quicker and a lot less frustrating. Helen Kellerís mileage may vary.

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I was able to do it clam on, but agree it's not a fun area to be stuffing your hands in, and it's one of those areas that once you have your fingers on the part, you can't see the action. Still, improved shift feel made my car a ton more fun to drive.
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Looks like we will have the parts sooner than expected. We will have them next week! Feel free to order them: HERE We will ship them out as soon as they arrive.

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We just received our new not too short shift kits from DNA. 20 have arrived so we will be well stocked. We'll install one onto my Elise as I'm very excited about this throw - I should name it the Goldilocks...
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