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Could I ask a stupid question that may have been answered before: is this wheel up to track work, or is it more of a street wheel? I know you said you did some spirited driving testing but I am a lazy fool who would want wheels that do double-duty. I am not concerned with the weight (Lotus heresy!) but more the durability of the wheel. Does anyone know?
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no rubbing on the inside?
Because of the camber? No. And the inside of the tire actually sits further from the inside of the body than stock, it's the outside that's different. Have a look at the fitment diagram.
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Could I ask a stupid question that may have been answered before: is this wheel up to track work, or is it more of a street wheel? I know you said you did some spirited driving testing but I am a lazy fool who would want wheels that do double-duty. I am not concerned with the weight (Lotus heresy!) but more the durability of the wheel. Does anyone know?
1. It's not a stupid question.

2. No, you do not want these wheels for track use, and it's not because they are heavy, it's because they are fragile.

3. If you want a double duty set, there are a lot of different ones to choose from. I'd get a misused set of LSS wheels that haven't been refinished if I were you. Some guys are going to point you towards ROTA wheels, but I would never recommend them to you.
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Thanks for the advice! I have the LSS wheels currently, and I am working through a set of Firestones that came with the car before I throw some R888s on there. Might go +5mm in width on those but will stick with the wheels now for sure.
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1. It's not a stupid question.

2. No, you do not want these wheels for track use, and it's not because they are heavy, it's because they are fragile.

3. If you want a double duty set, there are a lot of different ones to choose from. I'd get a misused set of LSS wheels that haven't been refinished if I were you. Some guys are going to point you towards ROTA wheels, but I would never recommend them to you.
I agree with your opinion on the Rota wheels.

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1. It's not a stupid question.



2. No, you do not want these wheels for track use, and it's not because they are heavy, it's because they are fragile.



3. If you want a double duty set, there are a lot of different ones to choose from. I'd get a misused set of LSS wheels that haven't been refinished if I were you. Some guys are going to point you towards ROTA wheels, but I would never recommend them to you.

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Thanks for the advice! I have the LSS wheels currently, and I am working through a set of Firestones that came with the car before I throw some R888s on there. Might go +5mm in width on those but will stick with the wheels now for sure.
Definitely check out the Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R before you get the 888.

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Definitely check out the Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R before you get the 888.
I just installed my set and did autoX last weekend. Those tires are like cheating. Cold grip is unreal. Highly recommended.
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Because of the camber? No. And the inside of the tire actually sits further from the inside of the body than stock, it's the outside that's different. Have a look at the fitment diagram.
Where's this diagram from?

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Where's this diagram from?
willtheyfit.com

It's my favorite of all the wheel/tire fitment sites.

fitmywheels.com is pretty cool too, it allows you to add your camber in.
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Adjusted the suspension yesterday, I had forgotten that Phil had made several ride-height grooves so I could put it exactly where I needed. Full drop is 17mm, current drop is 10mm and just about perfect for the taller 17's.

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OK, so the rare Achilles 255/35/17 that I wanted proved to be a bit hard to get. I could have gotten the tires, but I started to lose interest, really wanting the front to match the rear, and I think the AD08R is a better looking tire anyway.

So, final fitment is as follows:

F: 17x8.25 +25 w/215/40 @ -2.5 camber
R: 17x9.75 +25 w/245/40 @ -3.5 camber

A normal person should probably just stick to 8.25 front and rear so they can keep their camber normal without rubbing, but since I don't drive my car much, or push the car to it's limits, I don't think the increased rear camber will cause any issues.

The cool thing, if you're like me and like wide tires, is that the 245/40 actually looks wider on my Exige than my 265/35 does on my TL. There are 3 reasons for this:

- the specific tread pattern
- more tire visible (smaller Exige body)
- the wheel being wider on the Exige causes the tire to stretch a bit, making the sidewall visible from the rear.

The overall effect is fantastic IMO.

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For those wondering, the 9.75 + 245/40 is pretty heavy, 47 lbs, but it's still NOT as heavy as the Secant vehicles, which are a whopping 52 lbs in the rear! Even the new Exige V6 rear combo is 50 lbs. Yes, I know, they have more power, but still, you get the point, 47 lbs is heavy, but not unheard of.

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Just got back from the test drive. The rear is rubbing ever so slightly on the inside lip if I turn it super hard, which means it's fine .

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DANG Echo...the fitment is SPOT on...if you hit a nasty bump and the suspension compresses in the rear, I think you may tag the body pretty good. Hope the best for you on that one though. Looks gorgeous though...nice work!

Can we get some more side profiles of the car?

Would love to see what it looks like and different lighting.

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DANG Echo...the fitment is SPOT on...if you hit a nasty bump and the suspension compresses in the rear, I think you may tag the body pretty good. Hope the best for you on that one though. Looks gorgeous though...nice work!

Can we get some more side profiles of the car?

Would love to see what it looks like and different lighting.
I don't think I'll ever have a problem, seriously. The rub is so very slight, and with the way the tire crowns, and how sprung my suspension is, I don't see an issue ever. This fitment, as far as I can tell, is as concave/wide as possible on the stock bodywork. I have no room to spare on the outside, and maybe 10mm on the inside.

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This will give you a better idea of where the wheel/tire sits. Looks MASSIVE under the car. You guys running 255 and 265, I can't imagine how it looks in real life.


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Looking at my fitment, and comparing it to the TD 18" wheels I had here for a bit that wore 265 tires, I think I have worked out the size. If you look on Demon Tweeks you can see that the TD wheel was made in 18x9 +35. If you plug the numbers in vs mine, they come out perfect, and shows exactly why mine isn't rubbing on the inside, and the TD wheel was.


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That fitment is dialed. And yes, the tire looks stupidly beefy. So cool. Nice work!
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Another visual.

Stock LSS & A048 fitment: 16x6.5 +31 w/195/50 • 17x7.5 +38 w/225/45


XXR 527 & AD08R fitment: 17x8.25 +25 w/215/40 • 17x9.75 +25 w/245/40



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