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Re-71r vs r888r

I know this has probably been brought up before, but I'm looking for some opinions from people that may have used both. I currently need a set of r888 but seeing how it's getting hard to find them I'm thinking of trying one of these other sets, even though my fronts are still like new and currently only need rears.
How do you think they compare, and I live in SD so I never drive in RAIN that is of no concern to me. Anybody checked the weights of each? If it's a big difference I think that would matter.
Seems the RE should last longer than 888 with double the wear rating but that's not what I've read.
Dry grip, RE is better on the street and autox but 888 better on the track after it warms up?
Front sizing? I'm on base wheels and currently use a 195/50. The RE may not come in a good size for me. Deal breaker maybe?
REs are cheaper.
Anyway thanks in advance, if I find one more set of rears in the old r888 that's probably what I'll do. But if not I need to find a better plan. Or maybe some other tires? Not sure of any ultra high performance sets that would be better.
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Hey OB,

Sounds like getting a set of rears is the right solution for now. We just bought a set of R888s for a client a couple weeks ago on TireRack. Call me if you are having problems. Our local Toyo guys sometime can also find them...

The 195 are a bit too wide for the stock rims so I would not go any wider. Give me a call if you want to discuss.

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I'm curious about this too. I just burned through a set of RE71R (205/245) which have held up surprisingly well over 30+ track sessions (although I've seen a few DE students with heavier cars destroy brand new 71R's in one day). Now I'm curious to know if I can shave any lap time at all with R888R.

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With most things as equal as they can be for an almost 2 month time gap, I was about 1.5 seconds faster on best laps (1:41.5 down to just under 1:40 at Atlanta Motorsports Park) running the R888R compared to the RE71R. Same size tires (but 1/2" wider wheels on the R888R's), and temps not quite as hot but not far off. With the Bridgestones, I had to make sure to not overheat them, but only felt that way once with the Toyo's, and that was before I started reducing the air pressure.
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With most things as equal as they can be for an almost 2 month time gap, I was about 1.5 seconds faster on best laps (1:41.5 down to just under 1:40 at Atlanta Motorsports Park) running the R888R compared to the RE71R. Same size tires (but 1/2" wider wheels on the R888R's), and temps not quite as hot but not far off. With the Bridgestones, I had to make sure to overheat them, but only felt that way once with the Toyo's, and that was before I started reducing the air pressure.
FYI Toyo recommends 20-26 PSI cold, 24-32 PSI hot for R888 and 85-95 C ideal operating temp. Not sure about the RE71R.

I've always been happy with R888 - they are great on these light cars.
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Well looks like I found my last set of r888 rears, thanks guys. But really I'm excited to try the newer 888r after what I'm hearing.
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Do any of you folks have impressions of the RE-71R on track and street yet? I'm curious how it drives, since I can no longer replace my rear R888's due to lack of supply. It's a damn shame too, as the fronts are almost new.

Anyhow, I've used the R888R on my Focus, and they're fantastic on the track, but positively awful on the street - way too loud, needs a bit of warmup, and terrible traction when it's moist. I used to street drive R888's, but R888R's are a step worse for the street. I've got 2 sets of LSS wheels, so one will be a dedicated to R888R's for track days, but trying to find a good street tire that can also handle a wet or cold track day.
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I've run both. 71s are great on street and track. 888R are great on track, but very hard to get any front end grip due to lack of heat. They just don't work cold. The 71s are very sticky even when cold. 888Rs have a little more grip on the track. If you are canyon carver and track driver, get the 71s. If you are just a track rat, get the Toyos.
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I've just tracked a set or Bridgestone RE-71R's at Laguna Seca, so I finally have some basis for comparison. They've got more grip than R888R's when cold, performance is very similar when they're warmed up, but while the R888R's take the heat all session, the RE71R's get overheated, and noticeably lose grip as they get hot. So, if you're autocrossing, you probably want the RE-71R, but for spirited track driving, the R888R's will last all session without getting greasy, at the cost of requiring a warmup lap.
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I've just tracked a set or Bridgestone RE-71R's at Laguna Seca, so I finally have some basis for comparison. They've got more grip than R888R's when cold, performance is very similar when they're warmed up, but while the R888R's take the heat all session, the RE71R's get overheated, and noticeably lose grip as they get hot. So, if you're autocrossing, you probably want the RE-71R, but for spirited track driving, the R888R's will last all session without getting greasy, at the cost of requiring a warmup lap.
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