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post #141 of 178 (permalink) Old 02-16-2018, 01:24 PM
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The last set I bought cost me $350.
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No, didn't have a look at ebay, just remembered sales.

This is a waste of time if you guys think you can buy new front calipers for $500, or even close.

I'm imaging they would be worth $800 for new parts. Cheaper than that and I wouldn't even bother.

BTW, I sold my front set for $600 used, they have 32,000 miles on them.


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i think you pretty clearly asked for, and got, used prices. If you wanted to stick with whatever number you sold your own calipers for, it would have been simple enough to not poll the audience.

I think you are "harrumphing" for no reason.

At $800 you might have some folks interested, start a new thread and find out!

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This is a waste of time if you guys think you can buy new front calipers for $500, or even close.

I'm imaging they would be worth $800 for new parts. Cheaper than that and I wouldn't even bother.

BTW, I sold my front set for $600 used, they have 32,000 miles on them.

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I'm in for set is we're talking $500(ish).

Regarding the pricing complaints.. what you have here is a part where nobody gives a damn if it's new or used. It's all the same to me anyway.

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No worries guys, it's all good, not going to bother with it.

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Waking up this one again...

Does anyone have photos of brake-line routing with unmodified 2 pots on rear using BOE radial caliper mount?

Does anyone have photos of brake-line routing with BOE-modified 2 pots (extra bleed screw) on front.

Thanks!
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Found while looking for something else.

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Alright I've decided I need to do this. Its clear while driving the car that the bias is way too forward.
I tried to find a dual purpose pad combo that would work well on the street and track but I'm giving this idea up.

The RC5+s are pretty rowdy on the street anyway, so a full race pad wouldn't be much worse.

out of the brake pad combos mentioned though which would be the least obnoxious to drive on the street. The car already sounds like a city bus at times so I don't think we can go down from here, but the bite, even ice cold is great.
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Rc6/5+ or
Rc5+/ds2500
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Rc6/5+ or
Rc5+/ds2500
Looked up the stats on these. The ds2500 has a higher coefficient of friction than the rc5s were you suggesting those in the front or back?

Rc6 seems like a good front pad if I can live with the noise and the appetite for rotors. Has a considerably higher coefficient of friction than the rc5+ so would create the artificial bias needed
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Use Cobalt XR 2 front 4 rear. Cobalt is better then CL IMO and phil thinks so too. They dont last as long but eh.

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Use Cobalt XR 2 front 4 rear. Cobalt is better then CL IMO and phil thinks so too. They dont last as long but eh.
If they don’t eat rotors as bad they’d still be cheaper on consumables. How livable are they?
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If they don’t eat rotors as bad they’d still be cheaper on consumables. How livable are they?
I've actually never used them on the road. On the track they don't eat rotors. I never experienced the CL brakes eating rotors either.

Any REALLY good track pad is going to destroy rotors on the street as they are not getting hot enough to work via chemistry and are just using friction to slow the car.

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I've actually never used them on the road. On the track they don't eat rotors. I never experienced the CL brakes eating rotors either.

Any REALLY good track pad is going to destroy rotors on the street as they are not getting hot enough to work via chemistry and are just using friction to slow the car.
I guess with 2 pots all the way around I could switch them out pretty darn quick.
What material are the Cobalts made of? Any challenge with compatibility of the pad transfr layer?
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Use Cobalt XR 2 front 4 rear. Cobalt is better then CL IMO and phil thinks so too. They dont last as long but eh.
How long does a set of pads last you?
How long does a set of rotors last you?

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So update to this thread, I ended up putting on the CP5316 (so the smaller calipers) and running the same pads front and back.

First impressions below, I took a conservative approach because I've not made a change like this before:

1. Pedal feel is consistent with stock
2. I can definitely slow the car down more effectively
3. Effect of #2 is that I was consistently overslowing the car based on muscle memory
4. Much easier to get ABS before everything is warmed up

Overall impressions very positive, looking forward to learning the new setup.

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How long does a set of pads last you?
How long does a set of rotors last you?
I missed the last group of questions in here, oops.

Pads last depending on the track, maybe 1000 miles at best, 3 weekends at cota would be a stretch, but 6 at MSRC is easy.

I changed my front rotors after maybe 20k miles before nationals. They were still within spec.

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I guess with 2 pots all the way around I could switch them out pretty darn quick.
What material are the Cobalts made of? Any challenge with compatibility of the pad transfr layer?
Cobalts do not suffer from any pad transfer or bedding nonsense. They work on brake application #1 in my experience. Very happy with them.

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Cobalts do not suffer from any pad transfer or bedding nonsense. They work on brake application #1 in my experience. Very happy with them.
Funny you responded to this thread. I just sent BOE an email today confirming that I could run XR3 up front XR4 out back for track work, and then for street move the 4s up front with like stock pads out back.
If I can do something like that, or use my current RC5+s up front with stock in the back I think I'm just going to do that.

Don't know the dos/don'ts well enough of pad compatibility.
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