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Carbon Fiber Vinyl Wrap?

Did a half baked search and didnt' see anything, just curious if anybody has played with the 3M Di-NOC carbon fiber wrap. It looks good in pics anyway...

Since a lot the apps seem to be for cosmetics anyway, seems like a good alternative. And I understand you can clear coat it.

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that stuff looks pretty good.i seen someone did there gas cap it it.
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I was seriously thinking of wrapping the entire car in Di-NOC to protect the paint since my car didn't come with Starshield. I figure it won't be tacky if it keep the whole look of the car low-profile.
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Carbon Vinyl Sills

My first attempt at this, and I had a few minor bobbles, but all in all it looks pretty good. 50 bucks vs 500
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Looks nice, are you going to clear coat it? Any idea how it will stand up to shoe scrapes?

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what size did you order? How long did it take you?
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I am going to clear coat it. It seems pretty tough and the clear should help with scrapes and such, but obviously it is in an area that will probably see some scrapes anyway if you aren't careful. Nice thing about a few coats of clear however is you can buff out at least the minor ones.

I ordered the 12" by 48" pieces which frankly I had to stretch a bit width wise at the wide end. If I did it again I would get the 24 x 48 and cut 2 trapezoidal patterns out to fit the piece better.

It is a fast project, it takes about 15 minutes per piece. For me the biggest thing was gauging how much heat to put on - easy to over do it and it gets really stretchy (too much) and distorts the pattern. The tops are perfect, the sides have a few little issues. Like always if I did it again I think it would be perfect. This stuff looks so much like the real deal it is amazing.
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What kind of heat source did you use? Heat gun for removing paint or hair dryer? I'm thinking of wrapping a few things and I'd like a better idea of the process.

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I used a heat gun, but I think a hair dryer would work better. As mentioned it is pretty easy to over do the heat and get too much stretch and distortion. The link at the beginning of this post has some video of the application process that should help. In my very limited experience the less heat you have to apply the better - only when necessary to get it to mold around curves. Just enough to get it to flow a bit. It has an adhesive already, the heat isn't what makes it stick.

The other thing is you need someway to hold the piece, clamp it down to a bench, etc., since your are pulling on the fabric, heating etc, so a few extra hands helps. You could probably do the sills in place on the car and trim carefully with a razor. In my case I wanted to clear coat, so removal was best.

I think you can get small "samples" and try out the process on some little part and you will get the feel of this pretty quickly. I of course jumped right into it
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how does it look side-by-side a real carbon piece?

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how does it look side-by-side a real carbon piece?
It looks awesome. I would bet most people wouldn't know the difference.

I probably had the same thoughts as most people - this is some fake vinyl replica that sucks. I hate that stuff too, but all I can say is see this for yourself - you tell me. 3M has a cool product here - and I'm not getting paid to say this unless 3M wants to send me a potful of cash.

The reality is that most of the "carbon fiber mods" on our Exiges are purely for looks, so why not get the look for a fraction of the cost?
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i looked at their gallery and it does look pretty nice. Looks difficult to photo properly.

I guess it looks great because people going crazy with it. Have you seen the gallery? People wrapping a wallet, cell phone (great idea), light switch cover (wondered if one even existed in real carbon), etc.

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I really like it. I may try it on the sills also. Maybe apply it while the sills are in place as you suggested. I too am wondering about scrathing it with the heels of our shoes as we exit the car (where all the heal marks end up). ??

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I looked into "dipping" my sills to achieve a carbon fiber look using hydrographics and then sealed with clear or UV finish. Looks real and the finish is durable.
However the quoted cost w/o shipping ranged from $250-$375.

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I dont know which brand it was, but the previous owner of my MR2 wrapped the center console and glove box lid in a carbon fiber wrap. The glove box lid still looks fine, but the center console definitely was worn and faded and looked terrible after I'd owned the car for 6 years, so I replaced it with leather.

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308tr6, Thanks for tips. I think I am going to try this.
Do you think the center console and the dash (just above the guages) could be wrapped with this also? These have a lot more curves.
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Did you wrap the sides, or just the top? I've been wondering how well the hard bend at the front of the sill would wrap without distorting/wrinkling?

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Did you wrap the sides, or just the top? I've been wondering how well the hard bend at the front of the sill would wrap without distorting/wrinkling?
If you mean the major upturn at the forward end, that was actually pretty easy. I did wrap the sides, everything that you see exposed when it is installed.

When you get a bit of heat in it, it gets verrrryyyyy stretchy and you can distort it. I think the trick is to just stretch the minimal amount you need. It isn't perfect, but I don't think real carbon fiber weave is either. In any case you have to get this fabric in the form you want and you will get some stretch and pattern distortion.

You can do some pretty crazy curves, for the small pieces I just would recommend getting a chunk and giving it a go. It doesn't ruin the piece you are covering with sticky gunk or anything. If you don't like it peel it off and try again or just quit - and you're out a few bucks - no big deal.
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308tr6, Thanks for tips. I think I am going to try this.
Do you think the center console and the dash (just above the guages) could be wrapped with this also? These have a lot more curves.
I think the center console would go pretty good, not sure about the dash. I am definitely no expert here. Best advice is probably just buy a little sample and try it out for yourself, check out the videos, they wrap some pretty curvy stuff.

I am very satisfied with it all in all, and after I have it installed I am going to get a sense of how noticeable my few mistakes (only low on the sides in a few spots) are. If it bugs me I will probably just tear it off and do it again. I think the second go around would be nearly perfect. Someone who does wraps fairly regularly would probably find the sills and very easy project.
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