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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-15-2015, 10:41 AM Thread Starter
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Elise/Exige Crash Structure Primer for Beta seal

We are in the process of installing the crash box. we have the beta seal but missing the primer. anyone knows what exactly is the part number or where can yoyu get it?
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-15-2015, 11:12 AM
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http://www.global-automotive-lightwe...rieg-lotus.pdf

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• No primer or overall paint finish
• Bolted and bonded structural interfaces
• 3 types of Bonded joints:
•Al / Al, Elise/Exige
•Dow XD4600 single part heat cure
•1.95kg adhesive, Evora 3.5kg
•Al / composite
Dow Betamate 2810
•Composite / composite
•Dow Betamate 2810
page 11 does show the composites surfaces primed for bonding.

When I bonded the windows into my fiberglass Esprit, I originally made the mistake of not priming the fiberglass side... The window almost fell out after a week. So I reinstalled it priming both sides with the black Sika 206 G+P primer. Not sure whether to trust it, I cut the window back out of the car later. Holy crap the bonded joint with primer on both sides was extremely hard to remove again!

Did you check with DOW?
http://www.dowautomotive.com/products/

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BETAPRIME
Filter by Application
BETAPRIME™ 5201
BETAPRIME™ 5404A
BETAPRIME™ 5500
BETAPRIME™ 5500-SA
BETAPRIME™ 5504
BETASEAL
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BETASEAL™ 16100 Glass Primer
BETASEAL™ 16100A Glass Primer
BETASEAL™ 43517 Glass Primer
BETASEAL™ 43518 Glass Primer
BETASEAL™ 43519 Glass Primer
BETASEAL™ 43520A Glass Primer
BETASEAL™ 43521 Body Primer
BETASEAL™ 43526 One-Step Glass Primer
BETASEAL™ 43532 Body Primer
BETASEAL™ 43533 Body Primer
BETASEAL™ 43533ATU Body Primer
BETASEAL™ 43538 Body Primer
BETASEAL™ 43555 Body Primer

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also found this
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12* grind with P80, clean with Betaclean 3350 + prime with Betaprime 5404

http://www.bm-chemie.de/de-wAssets/d...06.12.2011.pdf

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What version of betaseal did you use for this? When searching the web, there appear to be a few different ones -- including betamate which sounds like the right thing for aluminum to fiberglass? (Dow Betamate 2810)

See page 4 here?
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When I bonded the windows into my fiberglass Esprit, I originally made the mistake of not priming the fiberglass side... The window almost fell out after a week. So I reinstalled it priming both sides with the black Sika 206 G+P primer. Not sure whether to trust it, I cut the window back out of the car later. Holy crap the bonded joint with primer on both sides was extremely hard to remove again!

I am about to replace my windshield. Do you have a picture portfolio of how you went about this. IT was a bear getting the old windshield out. What a mess!!!!
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When I bonded the windows into my fiberglass Esprit, I originally made the mistake of not priming the fiberglass side... The window almost fell out after a week. So I reinstalled it priming both sides with the black Sika 206 G+P primer. Not sure whether to trust it, I cut the window back out of the car later. Holy crap the bonded joint with primer on both sides was extremely hard to remove again!
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I am about to replace my windshield. Do you have a picture portfolio of how you went about this. IT was a bear getting the old windshield out. What a mess!!!!
no photos... no camera back then...
I wrote up the process, tools, and material needed, but this was for the 1/4 side windows.
The windshield will be a bit more involved with the need for spacers, suction cup handles, and the trim pieces.

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no photos... no camera back then...
I wrote up the process, tools, and material needed, but this was for the 1/4 side windows.
The windshield will be a bit more involved with the need for spacers, suction cup handles, and the trim pieces.
Gee.. it would be great if you could take yousr out and re-install it with video so we have a record of it and I can do mine right
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