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post #61 of 90 (permalink) Old 05-12-2017, 06:54 PM
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Do you guys know if we need to get additional HPDE insurance for Friday Talladega Track and Autocross?
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I don't suppose anyone has a stock front caliper for sale?!? While bleeding my brakes, we found the bleeder on the fronts, especially the left front, extremely tight. We were able to bleed it but couldn't tighten it enough to stop leaking - almost but not quite. On that last little bit of tightening, the bleeder broke completely in half.

We bought new bleeder screws locally and an extractor kit. I started tightening in the extractor and it snapped right in half. The good news is that the brakes are holding pressure fine (we're using a pressure bleeder and I pumped it all the way to 19 lbs with no leaks) so I should be able to drive home - I'm an hour away from home! - and I am resigned to replacing the entire caliper.

If someone has a used one they can overnight, that would be wonderful, otherwise I may have to overnight one for top dollar from one of the suppliers - looks like Auto Europe is around $700 not counting shipping! Yipes.

Or, I drive my BRZ to LOG and probably skip all the track day stuff, at least the autocross and Barber, which would suck hugely.

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Do you guys know if we need to get additional HPDE insurance for Friday Talladega Track and Autocross?
I would assume you can but no insurance is necessary unless you opt for it. I am just doing insurance for the HPDE at Barber. The autocross and Talladega I feel are pretty low risk for me - I've been autocrossing for years and unless the track is poorly designed (i.e. dangerous) there is little chance to hurt your car.

Just my 2 cents. By all means do what you are comfortable with.
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I would assume you can but no insurance is necessary unless you opt for it. I am just doing insurance for the HPDE at Barber. The autocross and Talladega I feel are pretty low risk for me - I've been autocrossing for years and unless the track is poorly designed (i.e. dangerous) there is little chance to hurt your car.

Just my 2 cents. By all means do what you are comfortable with.
Thanks James for the info. I'm wish I can stay for the HPDE at Barber.
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We are offering 15% off all Lotus Service until 05/31/17 for all of LOG 37 attendees.


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Well, I will be Lotus-less at LOG - we just couldn't get the brakes working on my Elise. I installed a new caliper (easy-easy!) but despite using a Motive power bleeder and several repeated bleedings all the way around, the pedal goes right to the floor and it takes a couple pumps before it's firm and up high. We just ran out of time to spend any more time on it.

So, take it easy on the poor guy with the gray BRZ, he's had a hard few days!

But at least I'll be there, and I'll have a little more comfortable travel, with cruise and working A/C!

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For next time:

How to Bleed Brakes:

Taught to me by semi-famous Toyota engineer, who built championship winning cars and bikes.

1. Get Sears brake bleed kit (canister, hoses, adaptors for bleed valves) and their hand vacuum pump. Kits there have both components. Inexpensive.

2. Pour a little b/f in canister, hook up hoses and use the tightest adaptor you can.

3. Pump vacuum to 20-25Ē with bleeder valve closed.

4. Tap caliper with small hammer or similar. This releases the air bubbles clinging to the caliper into the stream. WHATEVER method you use, DONíT skip this step.

5. Open bleed valve.

6. When vacuum is almost (but not completely) gone, close bleed valve.

7. Check level in master cylinder. Do this often.

8. Repeat as needed.

Benefits:

* I have never had to remove a caliper and turn it upside down, even after replacing all the brake lines.

*Never got a firmer pedal using any other method.

*Requires only one person. Your wife/so will thank us both.

*You will not be pushing the piston in m/c into the rough area normally unused, thereby not prematurely wearing that seal. (Clutch m/cs are always used to full range.)

Note: On my Elise, I neednít even remove the wheels.

Yeah, yeah, people use pressure bleeders, but my racecar mechanic friends donít like these.

Yeah, I know about speed bleeders.

The above is my opinion. No responsibility for screw ups, injuries, maiming or deaths.

Take it, leave it. OK with me.
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Another pretty big benefit:

When changing brake fluid (annually for me, biannually for others), we want to get the fluid out quickly.

So, with the bleeder valve open, I just keep pumping the hand vacuum. All the old fluid comes out fast.

But, remember to check the m/c level often.

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On an Elige when bleeding a new (or used) caliper that has just been installed (has known air in it), you can't do it bolted to the upright. You have to turn it upside down and work the air out through the cross-over tube. When I do this I also use the wood handle from a hammer or the plastic grip on a screwdriver to tap the caliper and make sure all air bubbles are released from the inside walls of the caliper. It is a little bit of a pain but that is how these calipers are set up.
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Thanks Ted. I had thought about that but for whatever reason, never did it. I was really happy with how easy it was to change the caliper - the two bolts and the brake pipe all came loose with no fighting, so pulling the caliper off again is no big deal at all. I also threw my Rhino ramps in my trunk to take there (we didn't have any where my car is) to get the back up a bit higher to get the m/c even more level and hopefully between those two, we can get the damn thing stopping again!

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Here are some pictures from LOG 37. Talladega Superspeedway, Barber Raceway Park, and the Huntsville Rocket Center - a full weekend!

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more photos plz

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Here are some pictures from LOG 37. Talladega Superspeedway, Barber Raceway Park, and the Huntsville Rocket Center - a full weekend!

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Bob, here are a couple pictures for you.
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Wirewheel brought this Evora up from Florida based on a pre-production example for development use. They call it an "Evo 450". Incorporates GT4 bodywork. Yes, those fenders have been cut. Hayes, if you're reading this feel free to add any info. Technically, I don't believe it is street legal - yet.



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So, have they announced the location of the next LOG?

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So, have they announced the location of the next LOG?
Yup - Cleveland, Ohio, August 10-13. I don't remember all the details, but we'll have the full hotel to ourselves, and there'll be a track day at PIR, IIRC.

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Yup - Cleveland, Ohio, August 10-13. I don't remember all the details, but we'll have the full hotel to ourselves, and there'll be a track day at PIR, IIRC.
ahhh scenic Cleveland..........

Actually they should go back to Akron, I loved that hotel
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ugh, I just looked it up, it isn't a hotel anymore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaker_Square

'wicked cool' except when trying to find your room after a couple, how many circles till my room...
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