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Is this because they function as a front bump steer kit as well?
The arms are simply not one of the legally listed ways to get camber for SSP.

Yeah so far:

-Uprights installed
-spring rates upped
-camber is way better
-carbon roof is coming Tuesday
-lower ride height
-new numbers, the old ones were two years old and coming off

To come:
-little battery (add 23lbs to the front to make up for it)
-scales purchased, need to corner balance after moving ballast around
-carbon end plates for the wing
-remove stereo/amp/crossovers ...add ballast where I want
-replace boiled brake fluid
-make front fender flares

That's it for 2015... so far.
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The arms are simply not one of the legally listed ways to get camber for SSP.

Yeah so far:

-Uprights installed
-spring rates upped
-camber is way better
-carbon roof is coming Tuesday
-lower ride height
-new numbers, the old ones were two years old and coming off

To come:
-little battery (add 23lbs to the front to make up for it)
-scales purchased, need to corner balance after moving ballast around
-carbon end plates for the wing
-remove stereo/amp/crossovers ...add ballast where I want
-replace boiled brake fluid
-make front fender flares

That's it for 2015... so far.
Damn. You weren't supposed to do that carbob/removing stereo stuff, so that I wouldn't have to do it. I'm keeping the stereo, but I probably won't add an amp or anything. Maybe do a subwoofer at the passenger footrest if that's where I want some weight...

I have a 12-cell EVO2 battery left over from the Miata that I may run in the summer. We'll see. 1.8 lbs is slightly lighter than the current battery I'm running...

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So I came across a good deal on Ohlins and picked those up (black friday didn't come soon enough! ), my steering arms came in yesterday as well. I have an alignment and corner balance scheduled for December. All I need now is my 15X8s/15x9s and tires!
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2015 PAX values released:

Class -- 2014 -- 2015 -- Difference
SS -- 0.843 -- 0.835 -- 0.008
SSP -- 0.872 -- 0.871 -- 0.001
XP -- 0.906 -- 0.905 -- 0.001
SSM -- 0.882 -- 0.882 -- 0.000

Full list of classes: 2015 PAX/RTP

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My annual PAX comparison spreadsheet. I'll update PSI once Howard releases that.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...0QU1nRkE#gid=0
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December Fast track is out. One notable point of interest:

#14744 Elise Clamshell Clarification
Add to Appendix F under Street Modified Category Clarifications:
“Per section 16.1.I, an Elise front clamshell may be replaced. However the entire rear clamshell may not be
replaced, as there is no allowance to replace the trunk.”

Kinda nice to hear for anyone who's not comfortable tearing into the stock front clamshell.
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Silversurfer,

I see you want to run 15x9 rears. Is this for SCCA Solo? If so are you thinking 245/40/15 or what for the rears? Did you swap transmissions?
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December Fast track is out. One notable point of interest:

#14744 Elise Clamshell Clarification
Add to Appendix F under Street Modified Category Clarifications:
“Per section 16.1.I, an Elise front clamshell may be replaced. However the entire rear clamshell may not be
replaced, as there is no allowance to replace the trunk.”

Kinda nice to hear for anyone who's not comfortable tearing into the stock front clamshell.
That was my letter. I wanted to know if I could get a carbon rear clam. The universal consensus on the boards was "yes", but I wanted the SEB to rule officially before I spent the money on it. I'm glad I did.

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That was my letter. I wanted to know if I could get a carbon rear clam. The universal consensus on the boards was "yes", but I wanted the SEB to rule officially before I spent the money on it. I'm glad I did.
Yeah, it's a good thing you did. It still seems like the specific wording of the rules says you could change it out... but what ever. It's no biggie. It's cool that we could run Exige stuff if we wanted to too.

I never really drive the car on the street for fun anyway, so I figured why not do the stereo and put the weight lower? Plus I can sell that stereo stuff.
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Yeah, I'm hoping to have the car still be my DD for 6+ months a year. So, stereo is required.

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Hmm, does that mean the only legitimate way to get fitment of rear wheels would be use of fender flares? Or could we get an aftermarket rear clam with the same construction as the OE parts and just have it molded the same as OE but with flared fenders?


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That was my letter. I wanted to know if I could get a carbon rear clam. The universal consensus on the boards was "yes", but I wanted the SEB to rule officially before I spent the money on it. I'm glad I did.
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Hmm, does that mean the only legitimate way to get fitment of rear wheels would be use of fender flares? Or could we get an aftermarket rear clam with the same construction as the OE parts and just have it molded the same as OE but with flared fenders?
Fender flares are a separate allowance. You're allowed to modify your fenders for tire clearance, and add flares as desired (you don't have to). The fender (since it's part of the clam) that you start with has to be OEM shape and materials. You could probably get away with getting something molded and weighted identically to OEM but with a custom fender flare molded in, but with the protests that happen in the sport I wouldn't risk it.

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Silversurfer,

I see you want to run 15x9 rears. Is this for SCCA Solo? If so are you thinking 245/40/15 or what for the rears? Did you swap transmissions?
I may run SCCA a few times this year, but I usually run with a local club. Stock transmission, and yeah, 245s if I can't find/fit anything wider.
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I prefer the 17x9 rears with 255s. Still fits under the stock clam, even lowered to 110mm ride height.

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2015 PAX values released:

Class -- 2014 -- 2015 -- Difference
SS -- 0.843 -- 0.835 -- 0.008
SSP -- 0.872 -- 0.871 -- 0.001
XP -- 0.906 -- 0.905 -- 0.001
SSM -- 0.882 -- 0.882 -- 0.000

Full list of classes: 2015 PAX/RTP
Good news for me and anyone else running in a tire index class locally!

My plans for 2015:
-replace my Dunlops with Hankooks...looked like everyone in SS at the Nationals had Hankooks
-do a National event...it has been hard to resist with Wilmington < 1 hour away...I think this year I finally give ProSolo a try
-continue saving $$ for real dampers / continue building the case with my wife that the stock dampers are "worn out" now that they have 30k miles
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Hold off on the tire purchases for Street. I can't say too much but there are more coming, some as late as Feb/March that should be worth considering. I'm also running Z2 Star Specs on the MR2 Spyder in ES and really like them, far far better than the Z2 non-star spec and I think faster than even the RS3 on camber limited cars though I don't have any science to back that up, just feel.
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Good news for me and anyone else running in a tire index class locally!

My plans for 2015:

-continue saving $$ for real dampers / continue building the case with my wife that the stock dampers are "worn out" now that they have 30k miles
My Bilsteins are completely shot at 15,000 miles. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Aw man, already got wheels. Know if any of these upcoming tires will be 15s perhaps?

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Hold off on the tire purchases for Street. I can't say too much but there are more coming, some as late as Feb/March that should be worth considering. I'm also running Z2 Star Specs on the MR2 Spyder in ES and really like them, far far better than the Z2 non-star spec and I think faster than even the RS3 on camber limited cars though I don't have any science to back that up, just feel.
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One is said to have 245/40/15 (Rival). All the others should have 15" front sizes and 17" rear sizes.
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My original list grew a bit...
  • Swap Penske 8100 canisters for 8300s, DONE
  • Find a brake pad setup that results in more consistent braking
  • Build lightweight exhaust (<10 lbs?)
  • Characterize rear camber curve
  • Dyno a few different dampers
  • Source more wheels for back-to-back tire testing - ZII star spec, RS3, updated Rival, DONE
  • Replace radiator & hoses, DONE
  • Refresh everything suspension, DONE
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Rusty old suspension:


Bead blasted:


Yellow zinc plated:


Replacement bushings & ball joints installed:


All assembled with new 8300 compression canisters :


Radiator installed:


Silicone hoses installed:

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