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I would have to disagree also about the 255 fitment. Mine fit great...but I am running hankook rs3s, with the car at a 127mm heigth setting, and camber in rear at -2.1 other than small plastic rub on the inside wheel liner (near frame) after some scissor work no more rub, perfect fit.
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XP - It's getting crazy over here, Dallas is talking about 335s! I am guessing that is for his K20 swapped car that would run in XP, and not his SSM car, as I suspect running 335s in SSM would mean adding a lot of ballast to meet minimum weights! I wonder if SSP guys can go that far? It would seem like SSM with the 200# weight bonus would end up with cars that have smaller wheel/tire packages than SSP cars.
I haven't decided what to do for XP in the warp drive car. I am still knocking around ideas for the tire setup.

Right now I am kind of knocking around three setups.

The same setup as what I have on the SSM car

or some real stupid big a7s
these rears are pretty tall so fitment will be interesting, but I think the big tires, gearing, stupid power would be interesting
275/35R15 fronts 10.1" tread width 22.8" diameter
335/30R18 rear 12.8" tread width 25.6" diameter

I think the treadwidths are on the narrow side as I will be stretching the hell out of the tires

I could be mistaken, but I think Fred is running 16x12 square, Hoosier road racing radials
23.5x12R16 12.0 tread width
25.5x12.5R16 12.4" tread width

which I may do the same or similar

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I would have to disagree also about the 255 fitment. Mine fit great...but I am running hankook rs3s, with the car at a 127mm heigth setting, and camber in rear at -2.1 other than small plastic rub on the inside wheel liner (near frame) after some scissor work no more rub, perfect fit.
Hmm id really be interested in seeing some pics, also whats your final offset? You in an elise or exige? To my knowledge the exige are wider in the rear. Also sidewall height 255 45?
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Excuse the mess it the wind blew some stuff into the garage.

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17x9 will fit on most shocks, just not my JRZ without a minor mod. It's the 255 I'm saying there isn't more room unless you are completely willing to compromise camber just for fitment/ride height which isn't a great idea IMO, these are handling cars not stance cars.

I'll take pics in a bit, taking that car for a drive later anyway.
I tried 255/40 r888 on 17x8 +32 or +29, can't remember and it rubbed outside and inside. Camber was about the same at -2.9 and I had to toe out to get them to fit. They wore out quick and went back to 245 with correct settings. Maybe the nittos fit differently.

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I tried 255/40 r888 on 17x8 +32 or +29, can't remember and it rubbed outside and inside. Camber was about the same at -2.9 and I had to toe out to get them to fit. They wore out quick and went back to 245 with correct settings. Maybe the nittos fit differently.
Very interesting! Mine can fit ET30 or ET35 with zero rubbing. I am running a lot of toe in but they were fine even before that. I wonder what is different. If I go to max negative around -3.2 I do get rubbing one one side. I'm corner balanced on 500lbs rear springs, not that low. Maybe thats the difference.

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Excuse the mess it the wind blew some stuff into the garage.
Beauty! My final offset with the spacer will be about 20-25. Should fit just like that. Thanks for taking the time to take a pic. Now to get the rear sorted. The 17x9's im looking at will have a +45 offset. I think if I drop that down to a 30-35 they will fit with about 3 degrees camber. Im gonna go for it, That 1 inch in stagger would be prefect.
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Forgive the new-to-Lotus question: how are you all getting 2.0/3.0 degrees of rear camber?

I would love to fit a 17x9 in the back but now I'm getting worried about clearance on the remote reservoir hose on my DA ohlins. I've heard you can flip them, assuming that fits in the other direction too. I may be waiting for someone braver than I to get a set of the 949 wheels in 17x9 and post how they fit.
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Forgive the new-to-Lotus question: how are you all getting 2.0/3.0 degrees of rear camber?

I would love to fit a 17x9 in the back but now I'm getting worried about clearance on the remote reservoir hose on my DA ohlins. I've heard you can flip them, assuming that fits in the other direction too. I may be waiting for someone braver than I to get a set of the 949 wheels in 17x9 and post how they fit.
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I literally laughed out loud at work to that. Well played, sir.
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Indeed I too will be braving the potential waste of money to try and get the 17x9's to fit on stock Exige body with track pack suspension. Ive wasted money on stupider ****.
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Indeed I too will be braving the potential waste of money to try and get the 17x9's to fit on stock Exige body with track pack suspension. Ive wasted money on stupider ****.
So is it true he exiges bodywork allows a bit more tire to fit compared to the Elise? I've seen people say yes and I've seen people say it's no different.
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I have a friend who is probably going to pick up the 11 inch 6uls for his miata and I will see about getting those to fit

Think a 1-2 inch spacer or thereabouts may be required though..

aftermarket uprights and control arms and some use of various power tools let you dial in whatever camber you desire. I am probably going to end up around -3.5 to 4 in the front and -3 - 3.5 in the rear. still tweaking the setup

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17x9 fit on a lowered Rover Elise easily with no need for additional camber. Have had 235/40 and 245/40 with no hassles. Pic below shows standard Oz Racing 17x7.5s vs 17x9s.



Should be ok on an Exige in the right offset I would have thought.

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17x9 fit on a lowered Rover Elise easily with no need for additional camber. Have had 235/40 and 245/40 with no hassles. Pic below shows standard Oz Racing 17x7.5s vs 17x9s.



Should be ok on an Exige in the right offset I would have thought.

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Good stuff! what offset are you running? I know OZ usually prints their offsets on the wheel.
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I have a friend who is probably going to pick up the 11 inch 6uls for his miata and I will see about getting those to fit

Think a 1-2 inch spacer or thereabouts may be required though..

aftermarket uprights and control arms and some use of various power tools let you dial in whatever camber you desire. I am probably going to end up around -3.5 to 4 in the front and -3 - 3.5 in the rear. still tweaking the setup
I [dont see why you cant run the 11's on the stock suspension arms with the correct offset? He's gonna have to cut the clam and put some flares on for sure. Cant wait till I can afford a wide body kit.
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Hey mate. The offset of the 17x9s is 15. I believe there is a 20mm difference between Rover and Toyota cars though.

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Forgive the new-to-Lotus question: how are you all getting 2.0/3.0 degrees of rear camber?

I would love to fit a 17x9 in the back but now I'm getting worried about clearance on the remote reservoir hose on my DA ohlins. I've heard you can flip them, assuming that fits in the other direction too. I may be waiting for someone braver than I to get a set of the 949 wheels in 17x9 and post how they fit.
Yes, you can flip the DA Ohlins. The caveat is that you have to grind out a bit of the subframe to allow the hose to clear. It's not that much grinding and I did it with a grinding attachment on a drill. See the pic:

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Yes, you can flip the DA Ohlins. The caveat is that you have to grind out a bit of the subframe to allow the hose to clear. It's not that much grinding and I did it with a grinding attachment on a drill. See the pic:

Got it, thanks. That's what I thought eyeballing mine. Any concern that grinding that out would weaken the shock mounting point? I guess if yours is holding up with massive Hoosiers applying the force it's fine.
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I have 17x9's with 38mm offset on the rear of my Elise with no issues.
I have run both 245 (street) and 255 (AutoX) tires with only minimal rubbing on the inside.
I use the same size wheel in the back for both, but drop from a 16x7 street setup with 205's, to a 15x8 with 225's for AutoX. (Both 30mm offset)

I had no rubbing in the front at all, even before the Penskes.
But now that I have installed the BWR D/A shocks with springs that are much stiffer that the originals, I am considering letting them "hang out"
I fear for the life of my clams, but noticed several vettes running setups with tires sticking outside the fenders and not really any more clearance than I have......

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