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post #41 of 54 (permalink) Old 07-21-2015, 05:33 AM Thread Starter
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So the Ethos wheels are interesting. They're a 1/2" wider f and r compared to my current stock-sized SSR type-Cs, but several pounds heavier and cast rather than forged like the SSRs. Is the 1/2" width worth 3-4 extra pounds unsprung per corner?
I can already fit a 205 on the fronts, and have 225s on the rears but can probably pinch on a set of 245s on 7.5" rims.

Not sure the extra weight and extra cost of buying new wheels is worth the 1/2" wheel width and not much contact patch extra. I could probably justify it for a set of 8" front 9" rears like the Bogarts.

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the 225/255 15x8 17x9 setup mentioned by Giantmcm is probably as good as you are going to do for the money for stock bodywork

my concern there would be only that I don't know about hoosier A7s in those sizes fitting since its already trimming the liners territory with rs3s
may have to run 205/245 anyway
I would guess if RS3 225/255 fit then R888 or RA-1 would also

whether or not ethos or TD are worth it over your wheels you have already...
if your not going for a 100% car I wouldn't worry about it as much. Anything with hoosiers under the stock body work is going to be in the same ballpark

guess it depends how much you care for more rubber

anything wheels with r-comps near the limit is going to be pretty close between setups also

width is more important than weight. stiff sidewalls and stretch is ideal
certainly don't want to pinch. Me personally, I'd run lower size for straight sidewall or stretch than wider with actual pinching

may be better off to save up for when the sawzall (or jigsaw if you prefer) comes out for the bogarts. I think the benefit with them is you can get comically wide 15x11 17x11 18x12.5 etc

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I couldn't get R888 255s to fit properly within the Exige's bodywork using RACs (17x8 +32). Rubbed inside front and outside rear. My alignment was not ideal trying to fit them so I went back to 245s.

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Dallasreed, that would be awesome if you could make the Wilmington Tour. It'd be fantastic to see another Lotus in grid.
Despite pulling several 10-12 hour days in a row working on the car including friday/yesterday don't think its ready for prime time yet so ended up not doing wilmington.

Still have some gremlins to iron out where I had some concern on the reliability of the car if I ran it at wilmington.

Haven't had it on the dyno yet. Still just street testing and ironing out bugs.

Tune needs some work yet. Idle is pretty sketchy.

I am having some issue getting it into 2nd, and only 2nd of course because thats the one that matters, even with the cables adjusted to the max right and forward the shifter hits the center console to the left and when pulled down it doesn't always engage. Shifts fine without the center console. Probably will change up the two screws on the sides of the the center console so it sits a half inch more to the left, and dremel out the end of it so it can sit more to the left and maybe dremel out the left side of the center console where the stick hits. If it weren't a problem with the SSM rules I would just leave the center console off.

The e153 shifts like a truck. Pretty vague. Don't really like the feel but gets the job done.

Also some issue with juice not getting from the alternator to the battery and the alternator works. been using a jumper straight to the battery for now.

Also I have the elements but not the mounts and endplates for the wing. And still waiting on my sets of 15x11 17x11 bogarts, although I have 16x8 17x9s I can run a7s 245/275 and the 245/16 fronts are not much different tread width than the 275/15 fronts other than bigger diameter. Would like the stretch though

not much substantial left outside of the above issues. Car is very quick, and corners like it was meant to, even without the big wing.

planning on doing 5 days of test n tune before nationals for what its worth

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Ahhh, this explains why you were nowhere to be seen.

Yep, sounds like a fair amount of work left. Good luck getting it wrapped up.

oh, with the e153, I had to slot and bend some parts on the Monkey Wrench adapter piece that holds the cables to the trans. That adapter placed the cable clips too far from the linkage to get the shifter to sit in the right spot as you have noticed.

Mine actually shifts much better than the c64... cleaner, more firm.
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Ahhh, this explains why you were nowhere to be seen.

Yep, sounds like a fair amount of work left. Good luck getting it wrapped up.

oh, with the e153, I had to slot and bend some parts on the Monkey Wrench adapter piece that holds the cables to the trans. That adapter placed the cable clips too far from the linkage to get the shifter to sit in the right spot as you have noticed.

Mine actually shifts much better than the c64... cleaner, more firm.
So in messing with disappointing throw of the E153, had a breakthrough today.

Also for what its worth my kit didn't have any such adapter piece as far as I know. My mechanic/fabricator just took the cable bracket from the c64 and turned it around backwards and stuck it to the E153
That is probably part of the problem.

What resolved a lot of it is basically shortening the throw by cutting the parts where the cables connect in the cabin, and welding some 1/4" extensions into them so the shifter movement translates to more cable movement than stock. Feels a lot more like the c64 did now, and the throw is similar.

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It still feels vaguer than the C64 to me, and that's even after I upgraded to the SSC fore/aft cable because my stock fore/aft cable bent with 3 events on the car.

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Hey folks, is the Stan's clutch stop mod class legal? The stock clutch stop is broken/missing off mine as apparently happens to some, and it's hitting the bracket for the steering rack (and sometimes slipping to the left of it even further given the bit of lateral play the clutch pedal has).

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Had another local event this past Sunday with a local group called VMSC (runs SCCA rules but is independent). The first run, car was very...drifty, but controllable. I chalked it up to cold tires bcs this improved significantly on follow up runs. I obviously am still battling a bit of understeer at times, and at others the rear slowly slides out much earlier than expected. I'm beginning to think these tires are just done. The rears are about at the wear bars, but the fronts have a lot of meat left. I'm wondering how much of an improvement something like a fresh set of RE71-R would be over the current RE-11s I have; at least until I can figure out how to pull off R-comps while driving to events that are 1-2hrs away.

Overall, I had a blast, as usual, but a very disappointing finish compared to other drivers. I'm really hoping more camber and fresh tires make a HUGE difference, otherwise I really just suck at driving this thing; I suppose there is still a lot of seat time needed to transition from my old car to get used to this one.

Anyway, here's a video of my best run:
https://vimeo.com/137205265?utm_sour...Q3MDgzMHw3NzAx

https://vimeo.com/137205265?utm_sour...Q3MDgzMHw3NzAx

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Hey folks, is the Stan's clutch stop mod class legal? The stock clutch stop is broken/missing off mine as apparently happens to some, and it's hitting the bracket for the steering rack (and sometimes slipping to the left of it even further given the bit of lateral play the clutch pedal has).
Well, no one responded but I did find this is legal - it's in the *SP ruleset, so I did it over the weekend. What a great mod! shifting feels much faster and even smoother bcs I'm not wasting so much time stomping the pedal down and controlling it's release.

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Are you running SSM?
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K. Are you going to Nationals next week?

SSM allows all KINDS of stuff - whole pedal assemblies, if so desired.

16.1.D: Drivetrain and related components (induction, ignition, fuel systems, etc.) are unrestricted except for the following limitations:

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no limitations on "clutch." Your stop is fine - per SP *and* SM rules. I've heard it is good, but I'm in lame stock. har. SSM is a SCARY wide open class. There are few things you simply cannot do, really, the big one being moving pickups around on the chassis.


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K. Are you going to Nationals next week?

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Definitely not at nats. Car is nowhere near competitive....and neither am I. I just like to play locally/regionally.

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