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If anyone has any advice on this I would greatly appreciate it.

SSR- both the Type C and Type F wheels are discontinued and are hard to find used. When I talked to SSR in early Sept they said they are working on replacements for those wheels, and they will be released soon. Keep an eye on this.
I have a pair of SSR Comp (Type C) Wheels with Hooiser Slicks mounted that fit an '05 Elise S that I'm trying to sell if you're interested - they've only been run at 2 autocross events so they're pretty much brand spanking new (despite their age) - the Wheels are mint and the Slicks are in fairly good condition but are older. Even though they've been sitting inside for the past few years, you may want to swap them out for something else like some Toyo's - still, they may have a few good races left on them...

Let me know.
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I had the opposite happen to me the 205s weren't available so I was forced into the 225s. They are pinched a bit, but the 245s on the 7.5 rears look just as bad if not worse. I plan on testing a 205 vs a 225, Hollis would say a 205 is big for a 6.5 wheel, he runs the 225 kooks on a 9" wheel and the 195 toyos on a 7.5".
Yeah, I remember you'd said that.

I'm curious to try a 225. THAT SAID, the 205 does not seem small. I'll probably try Hankooks before a 225 Rival.

Just drove the car around. The fake-SSRs don't rub. I'm actually a bit surprised. Jury is out til I autocross it (week from today), but I chucked it around pretty hard here and there, no rubbing at all, no shiny spots on the caliper, I've not taken a wheel off to see if there's anything there, but they don't SEEM to rub.

I like the feel of the Rivals. Put them at 25f/28r, rollover suggests I'm in the ballpark, but again, enthusiastic street driving != autocross. No vibration (using a flat spacer, no hubcentricity), even at 110 indicated. Happy. We shall see.


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I have a pair of SSR Comp (Type C) Wheels with Hooiser Slicks mounted that fit an '05 Elise S that I'm trying to sell if you're interested - they've only been run at 2 autocross events so they're pretty much brand spanking new (despite their age) - the Wheels are mint and the Slicks are in fairly good condition but are older. Even though they've been sitting inside for the past few years, you may want to swap them out for something else like some Toyo's - still, they may have a few good races left on them...

Let me know.
What sizes/what are you looking to get for them?


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Yeah what size are they? I ran across a guy this weekend with a pair of 156.5 SSR fronts I might try to score.
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Could anyone provide some feedback about which wheels will fit over the stock calipers, which ones require spacers, etc? I'm progressing with my recent Super Street Elise build and weighing wheel options. I have extended wheel studs, so spacers aren't an issue. Tires will be 225/45/15 & 245/40/17 RS3v2s.

Enkei GT7
15x6.5 +42, 15.8 lbs (per TireRack)
17x7.5 +42, 20.4 lbs (per TireRack)

Rota Slipstream
15x6.5 +40, 11.9 lbs (per internet)
17x7.5 +45, 19.0 lbs (per internet)

Rota Torque
15x6.5 +40, 13.0 lbs (per internet)
17x7.5 +38, 18.8 lbs (per internet)

Rota Grid
15x6.5 +38, 13.0 lbs (per internet)
17x7.5 +45, 18.5 lbs (per internet)

Konig Backbone (see fitment info below)
15x6.5 +38 with 3.2mm spacer, 14.2 lbs (measured on calibrated scale)
17x7.5 +45 with 3.2mm spacer, 18.3 lbs (measured on calibrated scale)

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Could anyone provide some feedback about which wheels will fit over the stock calipers, which ones require spacers, etc? I'm progressing with my recent Super Street Elise build and weighing wheel options. I have extended wheel studs, so spacers aren't an issue. Tires will be 225/45/15 & 245/40/17 RS3v2s.

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15x6.5 +40 with 10mm spacer, 11.9 lbs
I have a pair of those up front with the 195 Jesus toyos. They fit (clear the caliper) with the max stock legal spacer.
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I have a pair of those up front with the 195 Jesus toyos. They fit (clear the caliper) with the max stock legal spacer.
Are you using a spacer? Thanks for the feedback.

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I have a pair of those up front with the 195 Jesus toyos. They fit (clear the caliper) with the max stock legal spacer.
Are you using a spacer? Thanks for the feedback.
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I got some SSR type c knockoffs, need a 13mm spacer for them to clear the caliper, they DO clear, but freaking barely - right at the maximum allowable offset for the rules.

Not sure on the others, unfortunately.


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I ordered one of the 15x6.5 +38 Konig Backbones, a 225/45/15 RS3 and two 1/4" wheel spacers. I'll post pics, weights, and spacing comments once I get to test fit them.

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Reading this a little to late. If you are wanting run RS3s why not get the 205/45/16 then you won't have to buy front wheels.
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I ran against John Ma in Milwaukee, and he had the RS3 setup with the 16" fronts. He beat my time with my Toyo's. We are going to some testing when I get back from vacation...I am interested in this set up.
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I ran against John Ma in Milwaukee, and he had the RS3 setup with the 16" fronts. He beat my time with my Toyo's. We are going to some testing when I get back from vacation...I am interested in this set up.
Hey, Pat, the Toyos felt great at the school Sunday. Sorry you couldn't make it.

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Reading this a little to late. If you are wanting run RS3s why not get the 205/45/16 then you won't have to buy front wheels.
I'm starting with a non LSS Elise, so I currently only have 16"x5.5" front wheels. Aftermarket 15"/17" cast wheel options are cheaper than LSS wheels and the 15" tire selection is good. The cast wheels aren't as light as forged options, but it's a good price-to-weight ratio. The 225 front width might be at the point of diminishing returns, but it'll be a decent starting point if they fit OK. From the two events I've done with my stock Elise, they need all the front grip they can get.

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I ran against John Ma in Milwaukee, and he had the RS3 setup with the 16" fronts. He beat my time with my Toyo's. We are going to some testing when I get back from vacation...I am interested in this set up.
I'm interested also. The only complaint I've heard about the RS3s was they don't work until they get some heat in them. If the V2 of these truly does heat up faster then they should be a very good option for our cars.

If anyone has experience with the old rs3s and the new ones please confirm how they feel for a single driver or first run tire.
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If anyone has experience with the old rs3s and the new ones please confirm how they feel for a single driver or first run tire.
I have them on my STR car... but it's been down for a cylinder head rebuild, so no feedback yet. I've driven a well-built STX RX8 with the RS3v2s and they felt very similar to the RS3v1. The tires were already warm when I took the runs, so I didn't get to experience the first-run grip. Anecdotally, the RX8 owner has been very pleased with their first-run performance and believes they will be the tires to have in Lincoln for cars not using the two or three magical Toyo sizes. He is commonly a top-paxing driver in my region. More feedback is that they do not drop off when hot like the Dunlop ZIIs do.

As I come from the land of S2000s, here's a decent thread talking about the new RS3v2s. Pay attention to posts from RyanDavies, Forcednduckshn, imstimpy, & Ckit. They're national caliber auto-xers. Hopefully you can glean some useful information from the thread.

S2ki - RS3v2 reviews

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Konig Backbone 15x6.5 +38mm weight: 14.2 lbs


Hankook 225/45/15 weight: 20.8 lbs


Wheel *almost* clears front caliper. With a 1/4" spacer, there's plenty of clearance. The ticks in the image are 1/8" - showing that it should clear without a spacer. Don't try it or you'll end up with a mark on your caliper...just like mine. I'm going to use 1x 1/8" spacer from BWR for each front wheel.


A smaller spacer will also result in more fender lip clearance.


The sidewall pinch isn't too bad considering it's a 225 on a 6.5" rim.

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BWR 1/8" wheel spacers and the rear wheels/tires arrived. No fitment issues front or rear using an 1/8" spacer at each corner. The rears don't require a spacer for clearance.

Hankook RS3 245/40/17 weight = 24.5 lb


Konig 17x7.5 +45mm weight = 19.5 lb


225 RS3 on 6.5" vs. 175 AD07 on 5.5" wheel:


Wheels on car; not bad looking for the price:


Two-day auto-x this weekend. RS3 first run performance review to follow...

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I ran the RS3 over the weekend - they do like some heat. First run is not a total throwaway, but 2nd run is certainly better.

Heading to Farmington this weekend, maybe get some data on 225 vs 195 fronts.



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