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post #121 of 256 (permalink) Old 01-03-2008, 10:34 AM
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:-) ... shouldn't have bought the Elise and instead bought high end struts for your Miata!

And, you might have, should have bought a Track Pack Elise ? Those struts aren't too bad ...

Best Mod is to work on the Nut Behind The Wheel, ie. Evo Auto Cross School! :-)

Check this out ... copied from another forum:

From our California Sports Car Club member and professional Videographer, Tom Tanquary:

(THIS IS A ROUGH CUT!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMm1-1ko6Bw

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:-) ... shouldn't have bought the Elise and instead bought high end struts for your Miata!

And, you might have, should have bought a Track Pack Elise ? Those struts aren't too bad ...

Best Mod is to work on the Nut Behind The Wheel, ie. Evo Auto Cross School! :-)

Check this out ... copied from another forum:

From our California Sports Car Club member and professional Videographer, Tom Tanquary:

(THIS IS A ROUGH CUT!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMm1-1ko6Bw

The old EVO AX School Video:

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I plan on attending Evo school down here in Dallas for sure and I know my driving has a loooong way to go but it's easier to learn on a properly set up car in my experience. It's hard to concentrate on driving the proper line/looking ahead when you're trying to keep the back end in the back

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Best Mod is to work on the Nut Behind The Wheel, ie. Evo Auto Cross School! :-)
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I can't say enough good stuff about EVO school. I have been autocrossing for just over 2 years and I got my first trophy at nationals in September. I could NOT have done it without EVO! As far as the shocks go, I am partial to Penske's and the Elise specific valving done by BWR for my XP car, but for your street tires, the stock shocks aren't that bad. Funny thing about the Penske's are that even with stiffer springs the car rides better than stock.


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Have you seen the Blackwatch bar?! Not only Big, it's a work of art!

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Robert ... are there still two versions? Silver for "regular" Elises; Gold for Trackpack cars? I don't see two listed or a Note about two versions. What's the difference again?
Boy, you've been busy over here Mako!

I think its Silver for non-LSD and Gold for LSD. The trackpack mounts the same bar as the Sportpack, but only in the different location on the TrackPack's Delrin bushings. Then I used Grainger's lock collars to lock it in place (SportPack has different bushing spacing).
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can I run in SS with Kuhmpo V710 215 x45 16 & 245x40 17

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You can run any size tire that will fit on the stock wheel size.
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You can run any size tire that will fit on the stock wheel size.
EDIT: You can run any size Dot tire meeting the requirements of the rules that will fit on the stock wheel size.

710s are Dot tires and meet the rule requirements, fwiw.

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I just bought a 2007 Exige S and plan to Autocross it to help learn how to drive a mid-engined RWD car. I will NOT DD this car, it is more of a weekend warrior and autoX car. I want to find a good tire for autoX but also still decent on the street. I was looking into the RE-11s as them seem to be a good in the middle kind of tire. Any other options from experienced autocrossers?

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I just read in the 2010 rule book that the NA Exige qualifies for SS. (SCCA National Solo Rules 2010 Edition p.158)

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I'm thinking of making the jump from SS to ASP, can anyone tell me what tire/wheel combo everyone is running? Also what is being done for more front camber?
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I just bought a 2007 Exige S and plan to Autocross it to help learn how to drive a mid-engined RWD car. I will NOT DD this car, it is more of a weekend warrior and autoX car. I want to find a good tire for autoX but also still decent on the street. I was looking into the RE-11s as them seem to be a good in the middle kind of tire. Any other options from experienced autocrossers?

Thanks so much!

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The RE-11's are a great tire! The other option would be the Direzza Star Spec Z1. Either one will pull over a G on the skid pad and you can drive on the street and have a blast at autox.
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I looking for some advice on prepping my car for running in my local tire class (140 treadware) with SS pax. I have been running autocross off and on for three years, but usually not to serious. I have an 05 Elise with the sport pack. I have been running RE01's in a 205/245 setup, but the rears are past the wear bars and they are a couple of years old. I'm looking at new tires first as I need those anyway. So far my short list is 215/45R16,245/40R17 Kuhmo Ecsta XS; 205/45R16,235/40R17 RE-11; 205/45R16,235/40R17 R1R's. I was hoping that the 205/235 combo would better balance the car, but after reading the solo sticky thread it seems like many are running the 205/245 combo. The 215/245 Kuhmo's looks attractive, but I'm not sure what the feel and transition would be like squeezing a 215 on a 6.5" tire.

After tires, what would you do next?

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I looking for some advice on prepping my car for running in my local tire class (140 treadware) with SS pax. I have been running autocross off and on for three years, but usually not to serious. I have an 05 Elise with the sport pack. I have been running RE01's in a 205/245 setup, but the rears are past the wear bars and they are a couple of years old. I'm looking at new tires first as I need those anyway. So far my short list is 215/45R16,245/40R17 Kuhmo Ecsta XS; 205/45R16,235/40R17 RE-11; 205/45R16,235/40R17 R1R's. I was hoping that the 205/235 combo would better balance the car, but after reading the solo sticky thread it seems like many are running the 205/245 combo. The 215/245 Kuhmo's looks attractive, but I'm not sure what the feel and transition would be like squeezing a 215 on a 6.5" tire.

After tires, what would you do next?
After tires just make sure you have a good alignment (max camber & zero toe I like 1/8" toe out but don't street drive it much)

Then just go out and drive shocks may help but only in the tenth's of seconds.
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Would the uprated sway bar from BWR provide any benefit on street tires or do you really need to step up to A6's to take advantage of it? If I did decide to go to A6's what are people using for wheels in stock sizes? The only wheel I have seen currently being sold in stock size is the TR wheel on tire rack.

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Would the uprated sway bar from BWR provide any benefit on street tires or do you really need to step up to A6's to take advantage of it? If I did decide to go to A6's what are people using for wheels in stock sizes? The only wheel I have seen currently being sold in stock size is the TR wheel on tire rack.
BWR is good even for street tires, just need to run it at a slightly softer setting. I run 2nd to stiffest setting for A6/A005, and one hole down from that for a 205/235 Dunlop Star Specs which are a good 140+ treadwear option.

Like others said, get as much camber as you can out of the front (pull all but the ABS shims for SS legal), get a LSD if you don't have one, get a drop in K&N or green filter and just go drive the car. My second set of LSS size wheels are some Rota slipstreams, not sure if you can get them new anymore though.

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I looking for some advice on prepping my car for running in my local tire class (140 treadware) with SS pax. I have been running autocross off and on for three years, but usually not to serious. I have an 05 Elise with the sport pack. I have been running RE01's in a 205/245 setup, but the rears are past the wear bars and they are a couple of years old. I'm looking at new tires first as I need those anyway. So far my short list is 215/45R16,245/40R17 Kuhmo Ecsta XS; 205/45R16,235/40R17 RE-11; 205/45R16,235/40R17 R1R's. I was hoping that the 205/235 combo would better balance the car, but after reading the solo sticky thread it seems like many are running the 205/245 combo. The 215/245 Kuhmo's looks attractive, but I'm not sure what the feel and transition would be like squeezing a 215 on a 6.5" tire.

After tires, what would you do next?
I have an 05 Elise with the sport pack (there's a funny echo in here).

I'm on Star Specs. 205/50-16 and 235/45-17 Highest "140" street-tire placing in the NA Elise/Exige class at LOG 30. I believe the two cars ahead of me had Advans and Toyo R1.

My car still oversteers. I'm planning on tightening up the front bar a notch. It looks like there is enough room on the flat to drill another hole.

Get a CG Lock. They now have a mass-produced version called the SeatSnug. You can probably buy them locally at Pep Boys or Wal-Mart or the like. I have them on the Elise.
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I have an 05 Elise with the sport pack (there's a funny echo in here).

I'm on Star Specs. 205/50-16 and 235/45-17 Highest "140" street-tire placing in the NA Elise/Exige class at LOG 30. I believe the two cars ahead of me had Advans and Toyo R1.

My car still oversteers. I'm planning on tightening up the front bar a notch. It looks like there is enough room on the flat to drill another hole.

Get a CG Lock. They now have a mass-produced version called the SeatSnug. You can probably buy them locally at Pep Boys or Wal-Mart or the like. I have them on the Elise.
Try changing your tire pressure. I was running the exact same setup and I can change the balance from understeer to oversteer with nothing but tire pressure changes.

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Try changing your tire pressure. I was running the exact same setup and I can change the balance from understeer to oversteer with nothing but tire pressure changes.
It is great to have balance, but job one is to have balance with the greatest overall stick.

Skidpad shows the rear is camber-deprived. The best that air-pressure changes can do is get me to the same temp on the outside and the middle, with the inside still cold. This is an overinflation. To get the most out of the tire, I need to get closer to zero dynamic camber (dare I hope to zero). As noted before, the rear is already to the most-negative static camber possible under Stock rules.

More front bar will reduce chassis roll and therefore help the rear dynamic camber. This will allow me to reduce the rear air pressure and use more of the rear tire (dare I hope all of it).

The old camber-friendly BFG R1 would come in handy now. Of course, when those tires were around, I had a Europa that didn't need camber help.
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I need urgent help from someone who is familiar with the SS rules regarding aftermarket shocks. I'm trying to get my car setup this weekend for our big 24 hour autocross next weekend. Shoot me a PM with your phone number if your willing to help.

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