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|09-06-2013 08:31 PM|
Lets see, so many things to respond to here.
1. There are decent pockets to live in that are not bad cost. It all depends on what your looking for, as others have said, many live in vancouver WA and then commute to Portland... but that commute sucks, but compared to CA its probably a breeze. I live in SE Portland/Clackamas/Happy Valley and its very nice here, you can get a new 2,500 sq foot home with 4 car garage down the street from me for the low $300's. No sales tax in oregon but we do have a 8-11% state income tax and property taxes really depend on where you live, mine are almost $3K per year for a $240K home
2. There are tech jobs in hillsburrito, ok so its really called hillsboro but some parts are very mexican over ran and others are high tech Intel workers and other startups.
3. I pump my own gas all the time, I have never had any issues with it in my Lotus, in my other 3 cars I just enjoy not having to get out during the rain that happens 13 months out of the year, but don't worry, the rain is usually just a slight mist, not a downpour like you get in the midwest. Eskimos have 10 different words for snow, in Oregon we have 15 different types of rain!
4. Road, um kinda, we have Skyline, old timber road, but we also have Portland International Raceway, only racetrack owned by a city right off I5 between Vancouver and Portland, Oregon raceway park is 2.5 hours away, The Ridge is 2.5 hours away, Pacific raceways in 3 hours away and you can legally drive fast but its expensive :-)
5. I have not had issues with crime, unless you mean lots of hobo's asking for money on street corners. Very hipster downtown and inner city and then outside of the citys often very redneck as others have said.
6. We do have a cars and coffee every saturday rain or shine in Tigard and an awesome indoor go-kart track for the off season. Our lotus club here is not the largest and does not have much of a following but we are trying. I will add more as I get a chance to go back and read the comments but this should get you started for now.
I have lived in Oregon all 29 years of my life and since i own a company here there is a very slim to none chance that I will move until i am in my 60's so I think I am more qualified than most to answer questions ;-)
|09-05-2013 09:54 AM|
Originally Posted by David Craig View Post
Most of them have been pretty cool on pumping the gas with me. I do keep a rag to put on the paint surface where the pump handle sets on an Elise. The fact that I get out with a rag and the "Exotic" car seems to really slow them down and I've had no problems. Many just hand the nozzle to me followed by "i'm not touching your car man". Some of them are worried as it's a violation here as we all know. I don't think so much as a drop has touched the paint since I started with the rag/towel procedure.
Portland is awesome, but you have a ton of factors to figure out before you settle in up there.
Lots of great driving roads during the dry months. You might want to just shelve the lotus for the winter though.
The entire state is plagued with meth addicts and high property crime rates. I think mostly opportunity theft and not mugging situations. Bikes, tools, GPS units, Ash tray change, and such should all be well secured or out of site.
I've had people tell me that I should never leave coins in plain sight when leaving my car. I'm about 45 minutes from Portland.
|09-03-2013 05:42 AM|
|Mr.C||Highway 53 between Highway 26 (couple miles east from the 26 / 101 junction) and the small town of Wheeler is one of my all time favorite driving roads in Oregon. No traffic, no cops, and its just turn after turn after turn for 20 miles.|
|09-02-2013 06:45 PM|
Originally Posted by RelativePants View Post
|09-01-2013 08:20 PM|
|RelativePants||I need a change. I think I'll come visit Oregon to check it out. Any Lotus people in the area want to meet up?|
|09-01-2013 05:59 PM|
Originally Posted by RelativePants View Post
Before that, though, we had a delightful day out in the TR4 with the Portland Triumph club, driving country roads and looking at covered bridges in the Willemette (sp?) Valley south of Portland.
The Pacific Coast Highway is neat. We got out in the TR4 around Newport and Waldport. Nice place to eat south of Waldport is "The Adobe" right on the coast.
|09-01-2013 04:23 PM|
|RelativePants||Are there any good driving roads in the area?|
|08-29-2013 06:24 PM|
An Englishman I know who spent decades living in the Minneapolis area retired and did some research on a place where he could drive his Lotus and Jag year-round. Decided the best weather was in Roseburg Oregon, and moved there.
I didn't visit him when we went through there in 2009 since
We were behind schedule for camping at Diamond Lake
I needed to buy a real camera for Crater Lake
The maps and satellite photos made it look like there was no way in hell I was going to get into and out of his neighborhood with the rig we were driving.
Spoke to him on the phone. He says he was right about the weather.
|08-29-2013 04:45 PM|
Originally Posted by David Craig View Post
I fill up in Vancouver only and than drive into Portland with the Lotus..For the very reasons you make.
|08-29-2013 04:36 PM|
Having lived in Southern California (thousand Oaks)
and now Vancouver WA AKA Portland....
I can say these things..
Redmond Washington, Bellevue, Kirkland is amazing place to live if you can tolerate the rain and high house prices, you will also be taxed like you live in CA...except no income tax (high property tax and sales tax.).
The area is gorgeous, extremely wealthy (Microsoft, Boeing, Costco, Amazon, Star bucks to name a few). Met my FiancÚ up in Seattle.. Women are gorgeous...lots of blondes.
As soon you hit Tacoma...crime goes up. Poverty increases, people get ugly.. might be the meth as stated above. And it gets worse from there down.
I was forced to relocate by my company to Portland. I chose Vancouver WA because I work from home office and in the field.. I'm paid where I live. Oregon Taxes on income so I'm in Vancouver WA, do the math (yes I got best of both worlds).
I pay extra where I live, east Fishers landing / Camas...west Vancouver gets rough.
Portland is alright...It's better and safer than LA could ever be but its no Seattle.
I suggest living in Tigard / Beaverton OR or the Pearl District for nice places.
Portland's just so industrial.....
Personally... I just want to get relocated again. Portland isn't really for me... I had a better time in Seattle Area.
I want to live in San Diego....so bad... work my way back down the coast.
|08-28-2013 03:03 AM|
Rain in Eugene is pretty comparable to portland.
Edit, looks like Eugene gets more rain
Portland is a small big city. A mini sf or Seattle. Very walkable and live able. Way different from grants pass.
|08-27-2013 09:31 PM|
Originally Posted by R4Racin View Post
|08-27-2013 04:27 PM|
I also live in Grants Pass and can certainly echo all of 1TowMan's sentiments. Grants Pass has it's own micro-climate and the immediate area around here has awesome weather.
I frequently commute to Portland (NEVER seem to have time to make it to the weekly gathering) and have to echo the weather observations already mentioned above. Grew up in the Bay Area and any time other than July-August, Portland's weather make's S.F. look like heaven.
Of course there are two race tracks almost in the middle of town so that is a big plus - especially if you drive like Senna in the rain.
As to Crime - I am told that Portland has the highest number of strip clubs per capita than any other city in the U.S. and the medium rate crimes seem to follow it.
I am currently pondering relocating more Northerly and am looking at Cottage Grove, Eugene, and Corvallis areas. Closer to Portland without the rain. Check it out!
|08-27-2013 01:17 PM|
|08-27-2013 01:15 PM|
if you move to portland you had better bring an attractive girl with you....
its a kewl city.
anyways - an easier answer may be that you need a better real estate agent here in town.... drop me a note and i can point you to someone. i really love both the place i sold with the pininfarnia kitchen and "casa di velocita" place i just moved to.
fwiw - i am not really all the impressed with socal weather - i think its a bit of a crock! but i am enjoying it here. i have a number of friends in portland and travel there. and like seattle as well. but man... it make bay area weather look fantastic! ha!
look into DC as well - always an aggressive market for educated talent there.
|08-27-2013 01:15 PM|
|Allan Gibbs||That's the reason I moved from Los Angeles (Glendale/Montrose) to Phoenix. You can buy a nice home here for $300K (or less) and it would be about 5 to 15 years old vs. 50-60 years in Los Angeles. I believe the tech industry may still be strong here? But, there's not much in terms of nice driving roads unless you go about an hour out of the Phoenix area. Weather's hot in the summer but it's bearable (probably more so than very humid climates).|
|08-27-2013 12:58 PM|
|Butters||Whatever you do, stay away from Seattle. The housing market sucks, the weather sucks, and everybody drives like toddlers. STAY AWAY.|
|08-27-2013 10:33 AM|
"living in Washinton state near the OR border "
Yes, but, I have family down there. They absolutely do that but SW WA is not the best part of the state (unless you are an employed logger). Pretty depressed region. We joke a lot about Lewis county. Now, if you plan to get a trailer and work the meth angle... you are in the right spot.
|08-27-2013 10:23 AM|
Originally Posted by comptalk View Post
IL is a full on disaster in progress. NY has some financial challenges, a variety of political problems, and lingering infrastructure (post-Sandy) issues that could well translate back to financial problems.
Have to mostly agree on Grants Pass--was there last year --- really nice area. Not sure about winter weather --Dec-Jan temps dip into the 40's.
A friend of mine recently advised the benefits of living in Washinton state near the OR border --pay no state income tax in WA and shop in OR (no sales tax). Of course, if you work in OR, then the WA income tax benefit is lost.
jm (IL state motto: THROWING good money after bad, year in, year out)
|08-27-2013 10:09 AM|
|Lckitty||I think you'd find both Or and WA great places to live. Generally nice, educated (in cities) and relaxed. Heavy on rednecks outside of town tho. Prices are better certainly. You may have more tech oppotunities in the general Seattle / Puget Sound region. Some of my IT guys getting pink slips are easily finding jobs outside of Boeing. Boeing is outsourcing IT so leave that one. You may want to hunt down some of our microsofties in this forum too.|
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