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04-01-2010 04:21 AM
Mowse
Pull the trigger yet?

Ardent red is a great color. I almost got it (and I usually don't care for red). But it is a "free" color so bear that in mind. I believe yellow is the only other free color.

2800 miles? Don't even consider paying $50k. Too many used SCs out there with lower mileage that are better specced as well.

I understand how you feel about new/used. But get on line and look around. Some great cars are out there. I just got a '08 SC specced with EVERY option available (except sport which I didn't want) in graphite gray ($1200) with 1039 miles. $42,800

The MSRP was $64k but it was "used".

Good luck and let us know what you do.

BTW.....get the SC!!
03-03-2010 01:25 PM
bueno
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Originally Posted by Fast Toys View Post
It doesn't take long to run down high ends tires like those that come on a Lotus if you are driving like an idiot.
Actually, the car the other person is looking at is an Elise SC with the base tires so even an idiot couldn't wear them down that fast at 2800 miles.
03-03-2010 01:11 PM
Fast Toys
Price and inspection

If the price is right and car is in great shape, it's no different than buying any other used car. You might want to take the car to an independent Lotus Dealership for an inspection if you really want piece of mind. Other than that, find the inservice date for the warranty and you should be good. If the car was truly beaten, there will be signs of wear and tear that should come out on any inspection.

You can also request them to do an ECU dump and then judge for yourself.

If the rear tires are still at 85 % and the clutch isn't slipping, I would doubt it had too much abuse. It doesn't take long to run down high ends tires like those that come on a Lotus if you are driving like an idiot.
03-03-2010 08:44 AM
bueno
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Originally Posted by Chaotic_Cannon View Post
Well I was mistaken, it has about 2800 miles on it.... I got mixed up in another test drive of a car earlier in the day.

But still this car is a demo and has been for some time. The dealer told me it comes with full warranty but I am weary since the demo will have been thrown around the area on test drives over and over.

It is the only red one in the area that is new (newish)
When a dealer reports a vehicle as demo in the system, Lotus Cars USA automatically gives the car an extended 3 months warranty from time of register. There are provisions with putting a vehicle in demo status as it needs to be in demo status for a minimum of 3 months or 1500 miles whichever comes first where then Lotus gives dealer "X" percentage back of invoice. A dealer cannot sell it's demo before that time/mileage frame and if it does, Lotus will ask for their money back. If the vehicle has full warranty, it can only do so because it's within the 3 months time but has exceeded the mileage however from what you're saying, the dealer has had this vehicle in demo status for longer than 3 months which means it does not have full warranty. Either the dealer is mistaken or it could be that they call it a demo but never registered it as a demo hence why they are asking so much (no incentive from Lotus).

There are many ways to trick a manufacturer however, my guess is Lotus has caught on to some of these ways since they haven't been selling many cars for the last 2+ years but have been paying out big bucks to dealers. Bottom line, make the dealer call Lotus headquarters or their field engineer representative for an accurate assesment on warranty.

Oh, and as lotusforsale stated, a demo is nothing to be scared of...it's the same as someone selling you their "low mileage" car.
03-03-2010 08:14 AM
AgentTripleX Well I know a member on here sold his black 08 SC last year with only 1,200 miles at a dealer for around $43k. This was at least 6 months ago. Given this car has more miles and time has passed I'd say less than that.
03-03-2010 07:29 AM
4380r
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Originally Posted by Chaotic_Cannon View Post
As a general rule I never buy a used car. I had used cars for years and there is always something that lingers as an issue. Alternator here, brakes there, leaking cylinders here, etc.

I always want a new car (or as new as possible).
Thank God for people like you! Without you there would be no car dealers, AND there would be no good, low mileage, well cared for, and lightly used cars to buy after someone else takes the depreciation hit!!!!

Actually, I understand what you mean...but you'll be thankful that others don't see it the same way when you go to sell the car you bought new!
03-03-2010 04:51 AM
Chaotic_Cannon As a general rule I never buy a used car. I had used cars for years and there is always something that lingers as an issue. Alternator here, brakes there, leaking cylinders here, etc.

I always want a new car (or as new as possible).
03-03-2010 04:46 AM
4380r
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Originally Posted by Chaotic_Cannon View Post
Well I was mistaken, it has about 2800 miles on it.... I got mixed up in another test drive of a car earlier in the day.

But still this car is a demo and has been for some time. The dealer told me it comes with full warranty but I am weary since the demo will have been thrown around the area on test drives over and over.

It is the only red one in the area that is new (newish)
I'd get some kind of confirmation on the warranty...get the dealer to provide documentation as to in service/warranty expiration date from Lotus USA. Dealers have been known to mis state warranty issues.

Also, just 'cause it's a demo doesn't mean it's something to walk away from. You think it's been beat any more than any other used car you'd buy????

To me, the price is just stupid for what it is. Stupid as in not good. THAT'S what I'd walk away from.

I think the telling statement is that it's 'the only one in the area that's red...'

If you are confining your search to a specific color AND a specific area, you've taken away most of your leverage in what is otherwise a buyer's market. These cars exist in few enough numbers to begin with...by insisting on buying only locally, you are truly at the mercy of the local market.
03-03-2010 04:43 AM
Chaotic_Cannon Well I was mistaken, it has about 2800 miles on it.... I got mixed up in another test drive of a car earlier in the day.

But still this car is a demo and has been for some time. The dealer told me it comes with full warranty but I am weary since the demo will have been thrown around the area on test drives over and over.

It is the only red one in the area that is new (newish)
03-02-2010 12:52 PM
jds62f 6k seems like kind of a lot of miles for a demo? I'm not a dealer though, maybe someone else could chime in there. I wouldn't be afraid of a demo with lowish miles on it though, for the right price, ie private party value or some discount on what the dealer would normally ask for the equivalent car.
03-02-2010 12:31 PM
floobydust Well, I'm new to the forum here. I bought a new 2000 Esprit V8 in 2001 and just recently bought a new 2008 Elise SC from an authorized dealer. It has several options: Touring and Sport packs, (factory) Starshield, hard top and phantom black paint option. As it's new and untitled, I also got the full warranty with it.

As for price, under $49K... I have no idea why anyone would buy a demo model, much less at such a high price. As posted previously... RUN!

Regards, KM

2000 Esprit V8
2008 Elise SC
03-01-2010 03:31 PM
bueno
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadDad View Post
And because of that the true demo car warranties are longer than the standard 3 years.
Yes, 3 months longer from the time they registered it as a demo.

To OP, if you purchase a demo, make sure you know when the dealer put into demo service.
03-01-2010 03:28 PM
bueno
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Originally Posted by CarMonkey View Post
Used 2008 Elise SC with 6000 miles on it should sell for $42k to $45k depending on options and color. Nice white one on eBay with 2000 miles and they want $43.9k for it. Demos scare me because it's like a rental car, people beat the crap out of it. Run away, don't walk, at that price. IMHO.

Also, 2011 Elises are going to be in showrooms (in England at least) in April. Then the 2008 will be 3 model years old. 2011 model looks great too! Mainly a clean up and freshening but nice small changes. Still, used is a great way to go.

Find White one here for example of pricing:
Lotus : Elise : eBay Motors (item 400104500114 end time Mar-01-10 07:20:39 PST)
I spoke to one of the sales guys their a couple of weeks ago but he wouldn't budge from $45K
03-01-2010 02:15 PM
CarMonkey Used 2008 Elise SC with 6000 miles on it should sell for $42k to $45k depending on options and color. Nice white one on eBay with 2000 miles and they want $43.9k for it. Demos scare me because it's like a rental car, people beat the crap out of it. Run away, don't walk, at that price. IMHO.

Also, 2011 Elises are going to be in showrooms (in England at least) in April. Then the 2008 will be 3 model years old. 2011 model looks great too! Mainly a clean up and freshening but nice small changes. Still, used is a great way to go.

Find White one here for example of pricing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-...#ht_8503wt_953
03-01-2010 12:52 PM
JWM0125 Thanks lotusforsale for promoting my canyon red exige for sale. I'm hoping to post more pictures tomorrow if the weather will cooperate. Yes, pictures don't do the color justice. I wasn't a big fan of red before but I wouldn't pick another color if I had a chance to choose a different color.
03-01-2010 12:48 PM
d-onion To be honest, Canyon Red was my first choice of color. But it's not easy to find. I had to settle for Ardent Red which I'm still happy with.
03-01-2010 12:35 PM
4380r
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotic_Cannon View Post
The one I was looking at is Ardent Red. Canyon red is better?

Never seen one close up.
Ardent is nice, I had an Ardent Elise. Canyon is something else altogether. A bit less 'orangey' than Chili Red, but with the metallic same basic idea. A nice, dark red with gold in it. In sunlight it really pops out, that's why that picture really doesn't do it justice.

This picture isn't much better, but it will give a better idea. I have a pic by a professional photographer I can post later that is much better.
03-01-2010 12:19 PM
Chaotic_Cannon The one I was looking at is Ardent Red. Canyon red is better?

Never seen one close up.
03-01-2010 11:50 AM
4380r $51K?????

For that price, I'd pull the trigger on this car over that one in a New York minute. Better brakes, 20 more hp, intercooled SC...all around better car with half the miles. If you want open top, $500 for a used soft top an about an hour of your time and youv'e done the soft top conversion.

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f94/...0-miles-84370/

BTW I do not know the owner, but my Exige is the same color!

And don't judge Canyon Red by this picture, it is a stunning color that evokes unsolicited compliments from everyone who sees it, even folks who don't like cars! Canyon Red actually has a fair amount of gold flake in it. In sunlight there is nothing like it.
03-01-2010 11:47 AM
RoadDad
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Originally Posted by Demonized View Post
If this was a demo, the warranty on it might have already started ticking.
And because of that the true demo car warranties are longer than the standard 3 years.
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