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03-29-2012 03:18 PM
waelsie
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Originally Posted by lotuscupcar View Post
Giles

There is a world outside of USA???? If so, most dumb Americans certainly aren't aware of it
Rofl !!
03-29-2012 06:11 AM
lotuscupcar
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Originally Posted by waelsie View Post
Not a loop hole in the slightest. Just because you Americans don't often take your cars overseas, you think it is "odd" or illegal. But in Europe or Asia or Africa (ie the rest of the world !!!!) where people drive their cars into different countries every day, it is just the way business is done - the visitor may drive his car in the foreign country as long as he remains a visitor. If he stops being a visitor (like he becomes resident) then he has to register his car locally, and to do that the car has to conform to local regulations just the same as it does in the US. I do not find it odd at all.
Giles

There is a world outside of USA???? If so, most dumb Americans certainly aren't aware of it
03-28-2012 10:00 AM
doug_porsche Well... I told you that because of my Elise I meet the coolest people!
03-27-2012 03:45 PM
[email protected] Hello Again...
Sorry we couldn't make that beer happen -- but, it was a pleasure talking with you -- and LOCO will take great care of you!
03-26-2012 10:13 PM
waelsie Tom, I arrived here tonight (Monday) after 10 hours in the saddle. Staying in the Country Lodge in Woodland Park for the night. After a leaisurely breakfast in morning I shall be going up Pikes Peak, then moseying up to Mimi's for the meeting at 6 pm. If you want to meet for lunch tomorrow, after I come down from the hill, let me know. I will pm you my cell phone number
Giles
03-23-2012 02:02 PM
[email protected]
Colorado Springs

Hi Giles!

I'm also a member of LOCO -- and live here in the 'Springs. I've been following your travels off and on --- and depending upon your availability and (unfortunately) my work schedule, we could meet-up for a "cold frostie -- or two.

There's a world-class PUB at the Broadmoor; called the Golden Bee -- (basically at the foot of Pike's Peak) that has some GREAT draft beer! But please, don't go out of your way -- ('cause my schedule is iffy) -- but, if you find yourself "thirsty" one evening -- I'd happily buy 'ya a yard!

Just post your projected arrival date / time -- and I'll try to swing across town. And if we don't get that beer -- have a GREAT TRIP!

v/r,
Tom
03-22-2012 08:26 PM
doug_porsche Giles, If approx 1 hr from Colo Springs to Mimi's

9155 Park Medows, Lone Tree, CO, 80124
03-22-2012 06:42 PM
waelsie OK. Leaving Vegas Fri am 23rd. Going to Zion NP and around a scenic drive near there for a couple of days, then to Colorado on 25th and probably get into Colrodao Springs on 26th. How long does it take me to get from Colorado Springs to MiMis Cafe or wherever it is for the meeting at 6 pm on the 27th ? Remember I have to get up Pikes Peak first !!!
Giles
03-22-2012 06:38 PM
waelsie Not a loop hole in the slightest. Just because you Americans don't often take your cars overseas, you think it is "odd" or illegal. But in Europe or Asia or Africa (ie the rest of the world !!!!) where people drive their cars into different countries every day, it is just the way business is done - the visitor may drive his car in the foreign country as long as he remains a visitor. If he stops being a visitor (like he becomes resident) then he has to register his car locally, and to do that the car has to conform to local regulations just the same as it does in the US. I do not find it odd at all.
03-19-2012 06:20 AM
Vishus_1 Thanks - as I said, I just was mostly concerned for you.

Lotuscupcar's explanation covers it - particularly the part
Quote:
"Only individual nonresidents may import a vehicle through a nonresident exemption.• "
- - - this is why US citizens are getting grey market vehicles confiscated because we simply aren't able to drive such cars.

Interesting and odd loop hole.

Have a safe trip Waelsie and good luck.
03-18-2012 10:52 PM
waelsie As detailed above !! I am allowed it here for one year as long as I am a tourist and non resident. I have to take it out after one year (or 364 1/2 days !!), even if I wreck it, I have to take the pieces out !!

It is no different than an American driving his car to Mexico. Or a Brit to Germany or France, or a Frenchman to England. I just happen to be an Australian in America.
Giles
03-18-2012 12:51 PM
Glen There's also a one-year exemption for non-conforming vehicles to be driven on public roads by manufacturers for development or demonstration purposes.

I've seen foreign plates all over the US and certainly up here in Alaska - all operated without hassle. Some of them are military personnel that have just transferred back from overseas, others are tourists.

Glen
03-18-2012 10:33 AM
lotuscupcar VISHUS

Aussie plates are legal here. He is an AUssie resident and is able to keep his car and drive on AUSSIE plates here for a year legally. I have personally done this previously as well. It isn't an issue. I don't have the copy of the laws but it is legal.

GIles has the laws printed and with him in his dashboard...so if he gets pulled over by cops who don't know the law, he can show them.

Nonconforming motor vehicles may be temporarily imported into the U.S. by a
nonresident for personal use by the importer for a period not to exceed one year.

Only individual nonresidents may import a vehicle through a nonresident exemption.• Vehicle may not be sold or otherwise transferred to another party in the U.S.;
• Vehicle must be used solely for personal use by the importer and members of the
importer’s immediate family while in the U.S.;
• Exemption is voided if the vehicle is either used for commercial purposes, or used
principally by any person other than the importer (or spouse of the importer); and
Vehicle must be exported after one year, or upon the nonresident departing the U.S.,
whichever comes first.


Lots of (not going to mention race here) xxxx people in FL and CA use this non resident status to keep cars here "export it" and bring it back year after year....thus driving certain cars that are not available in the US
03-18-2012 09:59 AM
Vishus_1 Thanks Glen...

Just read through that --- and if I am not mistaken it still doesn't clarify. These steps seem to outline what is needed to legally transport and have the car here - but I still don't know it can legally be driven.

I get some points, like the international drivers license, getting insurance in the country driven - but what about plates and the variances in required equipment. For instance, some states allow your windows to be tinted - some do not. If I come from a state that does, I am pretty sure that doesn't exempt me when I get to a state that doesn't. I have known people where state patrol actually made them remove the film from their cars or else the car was towed and impounded. You have to have plates (we all do) to drive on public roads - I would be surprised if Austrailian plates are legal. Then the car...remember how a few people imported the Porsche 959 but even they cant drive them on the roads (perhaps they can now because of the amount of time but that wouldn't apply to an Elise). There are imported S1 Elises here and they can only be used on a track. Why can someone from another country bring theirs and drive on the street???

I'm not against this happening - I'm just trying to understand and make sure the OP doesn't do all this for no reason.
03-18-2012 08:07 AM
Glen
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Originally Posted by Vishus_1 View Post
Im curious - how are you able to legally drive a foriegn/non-federal Elise in the US? Even if a US citizen tries to drive one on US roads, they will get pulled over or possibly even get the car confiscated.
See his blog post about just this subject here: Australia to Alaska in My Lotus Elise, by Giles Cooper: Documentation

Glen
03-18-2012 07:40 AM
Vishus_1 Im curious - how are you able to legally drive a foriegn/non-federal Elise in the US? Even if a US citizen tries to drive one on US roads, they will get pulled over or possibly even get the car confiscated.
03-18-2012 07:22 AM
doug_porsche If you love deserts, American folklore, or just plain interesting geology, Death Valley is an interesting place.
Say hi to Death Valley Scotty.
Death Valley National Park - Scotty's Castle (U.S. National Park Service)

Ya got to visit Badwater, in Death Valley, just to say you have seen the lowest of the low in America.

Keep us posted, looking forward to buying you dinner!
03-18-2012 07:08 AM
waelsie Sunday 18th. Leaving San Francisco this morning and moseying down to Bakersfield / Death Valley / Vegas. Not sure how long I will take - depends on weather. Might go hiking / cycling for a day or two if I see somewhere nice. But am now heading in your direction anyway !!
See you soon. Please keepyour hairdryers on !!!
Giles
03-13-2012 09:10 PM
waelsie Sorry Andy, Arizona not currently on my planned route. I know it is worth seeing, but I just can't go everywhere - And the target is Alaska so I trying very hard to keep heading in a northerly direction !!!
No offense intended by not coming your way.
Giles
03-09-2012 03:44 PM
lt0302
If you make it to Phoenix Arizona

Shoot me a pm!
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