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|08-12-2019 04:53 AM|
|SimonJones||Thanks all for your replies !!|
|10-09-2018 02:51 PM|
I've gone through and fixed my rattly doors but I'm still down one block on the drivers side window, and I need a replacement plastic block. The ones that ride the guide rail.
Anyone have any idea where to get them?
|05-31-2018 05:37 AM|
Just what I was looking for. The drivers door has become such a nuisance that I looked into a replacement door. First junk yard wanted $2,100.
I almost hung up on the guy, will be diving into this shortly.
|05-31-2018 05:09 AM|
Originally Posted by cch1 View Post
|01-05-2017 08:01 AM|
|Ob917||I'm thinking any hand built car will have random washers and stuff that some crazy assembly dude used to make things perfect.|
|01-05-2017 05:03 AM|
Originally Posted by exigegus View Post
|01-04-2017 03:33 AM|
saved this as a pdf and printing it to stow in my shop manual
great write up
|01-03-2017 07:13 PM|
door glass issue
Is the door glass of lotus elise s1 fit with the s2?
|04-29-2014 04:30 PM|
|04-29-2014 03:53 PM|
Elise Window Guide Rail Bracket Repair
Problem: The bracket supporting the rear guide rail to the door has broken off the door.
Solution: Epoxy it back to the door.
In the Lotus Elise & Exige, the side windows (#3 in the figure 11.01 below) have two Nylon guide blocks bonded to the lower part of the front and rear edges. You can also see them in the photo of my car's LH window assembly.
These guide blocks have an íSí cross-section (seen in the drawing from the Service Notes below), one cavity of which is bonded to the glass
while the other slides vertically along the edges of guide rails (#18 and #25 in diagram 11.02 below, of the LH door as seen from the outside). The rear guide rail (#25) is secured by an M5 screw (#19) that is fastened through a washer into a bracket bonded to the door.
Unfortunately, neither the washer nor the bracket (pictured below) are documented in either the Lotus Elise and Exige Service Parts List or Service Notes.
I believe the bracket is considered part of the door shell (#1 in the drawing 10.15 below), even though it is not shown. The washer remains a mystery -I think it is acting simply as a spacer to move the guide rail a couple of millimeters closer to the window and further from the trailing face of the door shell.
Welded to the bracket is the nut that receives the M5 screw that secures the rear guide rail. The bracket is angled in such a way that it can be bonded to two of the outboard-facing surfaces of the door shell. Unfortunately, the bonding can separate from the door shell, causing a nasty rattle and a loose window. The door space is so cramped that the rail will have a hard time completely separating from the guide block. If it does, the window glass will probably cant rearward as well.
Here is a picture of the inside of my door where the epoxy delaminated from the door:
My solution to the problem was to re-epoxy the bracket to the door shell. Here is how I did it:
F116B0185F Door Glass Assembly, LH (11.01-03)
D116U0005F Guide Rail, door glass, rear, LH (11.02-25)
E117B0061K Door Shell, LH (drawing 10.15-01)
B117U0009F Seal Assembly, door waist, LH Includes plastic fastener (11.01-06)
A100W5196F Screw, M5 x 12, csk. pozi.., rail to door rear (11.02-19)
A907E6285F Nyloc Nut, M6, thin, studplate to mechanism (11.02-32)
A075W5074Z Screw, No,8 x 0.75", flg. pozi, hd., block fixing (11.02-20)
B117U0389F Window Lift Mechanism, electric, LH (11.02-26)