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Today 12:11 PM
Champale Beautiful car! Some other very interesting stuff in that parking lot - what's the deal with that old Charger?? Is that carbon fiber bodywork??
Today 09:42 AM
Jawaii99 MTribe is that your GT? Stunning.
Today 08:18 AM
MTribe A few more pics..


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Today 08:02 AM
ByJoveByJingle
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And where does wholly hijacking a thread fall on your 'class' spectrum?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a few more cars to add to my list.
No small part my fault. Sorry!

How about those GTs?! Anybody have any new photos? Iím not seeing a lot listed after the first burst.
Today 08:01 AM
ByJoveByJingle
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
So let's recap. Lotus owners call Corvettes cheaply made. One Lotus owner says we need to be honest with ourselves and give credit where credit is due. That Lotus owner is deemed to have no class.

I didn't originally think this forum was a bunch of fanbois talking amongst themselves but hey, that's cool.

Back to regular programming.
I’m genuinely sorry—I wasn’t implying you have no class. I see how what I wrote could be misinterpreted. I was only disagreeing with your suggestion that people listing their cars on a car forum is classless. I don’t think it’s classless at all. Context is everything. Constantly telling everybody you’re a vegan without being asked is kind of classless. Discussing your veganism on a vegan forum seems plenty fine to me.
Today 06:50 AM
4380r
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
So let's recap. Lotus owners call Corvettes cheaply made. One Lotus owner says we need to be honest with ourselves and give credit where credit is due. That Lotus owner is deemed to have no class.

I didn't originally think this forum was a bunch of fanbois talking amongst themselves but hey, that's cool.

Back to regular programming.
And where does wholly hijacking a thread fall on your 'class' spectrum?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a few more cars to add to my list.
Today 04:04 AM
xxaarraa
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Originally Posted by ByJoveByJingle View Post
I still don’t think that word means what you think it means. But you own a Lotus, so you get some slack.
So let's recap. Lotus owners call Corvettes cheaply made. One Lotus owner says we need to be honest with ourselves and give credit where credit is due. That Lotus owner is deemed to have no class.

I didn't originally think this forum was a bunch of fanbois talking amongst themselves but hey, that's cool.

Back to regular programming.
Today 03:10 AM
alau99
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Originally Posted by ByJoveByJingle View Post
Desirability and class are at best vaguely related issues. Of course the Mustang is desirable. To some people. I wouldnít be caught dead in one built after 1968. And yet you canít spit here in a car park without hitting one. Desirable? Yes, to a large group of people. Classy? Not so much.

Rareness is a component to the Lotus appeal, no doubt. But if you canít see the difference between the Lotus design ethos and that of Ford or Chevrolet, then Iím not sure why you would want to own a Lotus. Especially given your disdain for the build quality.

Edit: I realize a lot of Evora owners may also own American muscle. No criticism of thatóhorses for courses and all that. I just canít see myself owning one. Itís the reason I canít post in the thread about what car youíd own after the Evora. I donít know. There just arenít a lot of options for cars that perform the way the Evora does with the same panache and class in the same price range.
Well said, I agree 100%. There are other cars I will add to the collection but I don't think I will ever sell the Evora... I have owned 911's, NSX, etc. and nothing feels like the Evora, the suspension, that steering feel, and 6 speed transmission, a true modern drivers car with class and rareness.
Yesterday 07:09 PM
ByJoveByJingle
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
Maybe so. What I do understand is guys who post the long list of cars they have owned in their signatures don't have any of it.

Many if not all of us on a Lotus forum have multiple cars and have owned multiple cars. Not all of us feel the need to post it in our signatures. Says something about class doesn't it?
I still donít think that word means what you think it means. But you own a Lotus, so you get some slack.
Yesterday 06:56 PM
XHILR8N!
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
Maybe so. What I do understand is guys who post the long list of cars they have owned in their signatures don't have any of it.

Many if not all of us on a Lotus forum have multiple cars and have owned multiple cars. Not all of us feel the need to post it in our signatures. Says something about class doesn't it?
There is some credence to what you say. Iím on McLaren Life most days and the cars they list sometimes are hard for someone of my means to accept. Are they bragging because they change $350,000 cars every few months? I dunno, but I do read their opinions. Theyíve had experiences I have not.

I donít list every car we have or have had, but the ones that I see as relevant to the discussions I engage in. Of course the Lotus and the tow vehicles
Yesterday 06:03 PM
Elitex
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Maybe so. What I do understand is guys who post the long list of cars they have owned in their signatures don't have any of it.



Many if not all of us on a Lotus forum have multiple cars and have owned multiple cars. Not all of us feel the need to post it in our signatures. Says something about class doesn't it?


What are you talking about. If we can't openly talk about cars and share what we've owned on a effing car forum then what's the point? Doesn't it defeat the purpose?


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Yesterday 05:59 PM
xxaarraa
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Originally Posted by XHILR8N! View Post
Class is the sort of thing such that if it has to be explained to someone, they can never understand it anyway.
Maybe so. What I do understand is guys who post the long list of cars they have owned in their signatures don't have any of it.

Many if not all of us on a Lotus forum have multiple cars and have owned multiple cars. Not all of us feel the need to post it in our signatures. Says something about class doesn't it?
Yesterday 05:47 PM
XHILR8N!
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If Lotus are reading this, I would buy the GT if it had the 430 front end!
Would have one in the garage right now instead of the LC 500 were it not for that unfortunate front end
Yesterday 05:43 PM
XHILR8N! Class is the sort of thing such that if it has to be explained to someone, they can never understand it anyway.
Yesterday 04:34 PM
xxaarraa [quote=georgiadawgs98;5973800]
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
The new day dawned in 2014 with the C7 which was an excellent car that was very well made.



Any lotus driver calling any other car as cheaply made is smoking crack. No offense, my first Evora was the biggest pile of **** in any car by any standards. American car companies cop a lot of criticism that's unwarranted.[/QUOT





No offense but If you dislike so much Lotus cars and drivers what are you doing here in this forum. Perhaps the Corvette forum is where you need to go.
I love my Evora, it's my second one. I'm just not a euro snob and definitely not a hypocrite. I appreciate all cars, and balanced in criticizing american cars, having owned nearly every major brand over the years.
Yesterday 10:57 AM
Dylan
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Originally Posted by MTribe View Post
If Lotus are reading this, I would buy the GT if it had the 430 front end!
yes, 430 front end, and roadster in the middle
Yesterday 10:10 AM
Butters
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Originally Posted by MTribe View Post
If Lotus are reading this, I would buy the GT if it had the 430 front end!
I'm guessing they didn't want to go through the expense of crash testing the new bumper? I would've assumed the underlying structure didn't change (mount points, crash structure) but maybe the fed just has really strict rules regarding ANY type of change when it comes to crash testing...
Yesterday 10:08 AM
MTribe If Lotus are reading this, I would buy the GT if it had the 430 front end!
Yesterday 09:52 AM
Butters My god, the interior on that red 400 GT is making my pants tight.

Shame we can't get the 430 front end on this car....
Yesterday 07:54 AM
ByJoveByJingle
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Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
No idea what you are on about. Desirability of a car is mostly down to how unique it is and how many of that ilk you are likely to see on the road. The new Mustang outsells everything else in Germany, did you know that? That's because the Germans find that unique and different from the dime a dozen A4s and 320d's. Same reason we find Lotuses appealing here - they are rare.

People overthink "class" and "cool" and Lotus drivers should definitely STFU about build quality. lol
Desirability and class are at best vaguely related issues. Of course the Mustang is desirable. To some people. I wouldn’t be caught dead in one built after 1968. And yet you can’t spit here in a car park without hitting one. Desirable? Yes, to a large group of people. Classy? Not so much.

Rareness is a component to the Lotus appeal, no doubt. But if you can’t see the difference between the Lotus design ethos and that of Ford or Chevrolet, then I’m not sure why you would want to own a Lotus. Especially given your disdain for the build quality.

Edit: I realize a lot of Evora owners may also own American muscle. No criticism of that—horses for courses and all that. I just can’t see myself owning one. It’s the reason I can’t post in the thread about what car you’d own after the Evora. I don’t know. There just aren’t a lot of options for cars that perform the way the Evora does with the same panache and class in the same price range.
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