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04-27-2019 06:04 AM
fzust
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Originally Posted by philethier View Post
I just did it so I could reach the thermostat.

Thanks for all your guidance over the years, Fred. Your advice and products have transformed my Else.
Thanks for the kind words! My pleasure! Just took our street car out to pickup some super-top-secret Supercharger oil from UPS store. Blustery day, but sunny. Top off, TVS400 & Penskes blasting down a twisty two lane reminded me what it is all about....
04-26-2019 05:42 AM
philethier
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Originally Posted by fzust View Post
2005 Celica GTS uses the same alternator. This is not a huge job. Alt is right on top and reasonably accessible in the Elise. Even If I had little to no skill, I would do this myself.
I just did it so I could reach the thermostat.

Thanks for all your guidance over the years, Fred. Your advice and products have transformed my Else.
04-26-2019 04:03 AM
fzust 2005 Celica GTS uses the same alternator. This is not a huge job. Alt is right on top and reasonably accessible in the Elise. Even If I had little to no skill, I would do this myself.
04-25-2019 08:20 PM
philethier
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Originally Posted by kfennell View Post
Push down on the top right there then pull. However it is super hard and I think I have had to remove the alternator before I disconnected it every time.
I put my finger on the part that faces car left and my thumb on on the part that faces car right and squeezed as hard as I can. Then a straight put towards the front of the car and it slid out easily.

Hint: When putting the alternator back in, put a loop of strong string through the top ear. This makes it easiy to hold up the weight of the alternator by pulling up on the strng loop with your right hand whilst you coax the double ears on the bottom around the ear on the block and slide in the bottom bolt. Then you can cut the string out and swing the top ear back and start that top bolt.
04-20-2019 02:42 PM
kfennell Push down on the top right there then pull. However it is super hard and I think I have had to remove the alternator before I disconnected it every time.
04-20-2019 10:57 AM
philethier Here is the connector on the alternator on my 2005 Elise. Attempting a thermostat change.

Looking from right side of car down on the control-circuit connector. The main current connector with its rubber hood and 10mm-wrench nut came off with no trouble.

How do I get the control-circuit connector to unplug from the alternator without breaking it? I don't know if there is a release catch or how to release it.
07-22-2017 06:08 PM
fsparv Hmm my bolts were 12mm head, 12mm head, 14mm head.... (2005 elise) no 17mm anything. Torque specs in post #17 therefore don't seem to apply? Anyone got torque specs for my setup? I did notice that the bottom (14mm) one took quite a yank to unfasten. None of them had loctite as far as I can tell (they turned very freely after initial release)
04-07-2014 01:22 PM
sturgeongeneral
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Originally Posted by exarkun1178 View Post
i went to auto zone bought one for 107 dollars.

i got the celica gts one. fit fine.

My buddy bought one for $150.00 and it was an exact fit.
04-07-2014 04:45 AM
XtinctElise
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Originally Posted by exarkun1178 View Post
i went to auto zone bought one for 107 dollars.

i got the celica gts one. fit fine.
So how hard was it to reach the bolts and wiring to get the alternator out/in?
08-27-2008 02:36 PM
exarkun1178 i went to auto zone bought one for 107 dollars.

i got the celica gts one. fit fine.
08-27-2008 02:35 PM
controlo
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Originally Posted by TheViper View Post
If you have to replace it anyway, take it out and show it to the Toyota parts manager.
yeah, that's a good idea. just take it to the tech and see if he can tell you if it's the same part. i'm almost positive it's the same part.
08-27-2008 02:33 PM
controlo it's the same motor. it's the same alternator...

you can get one here for a buck 25...

Toyota Corolla 2005 Alternator - AutoPartsWarehouse.com

$1300 is insane. haha. i'd feel like the biggest ******* in the world selling that to somebody.
04-27-2008 10:56 AM
loki Did anyone get a part number from the Lotus alternator, some kind of info?
01-29-2008 04:08 AM
MaineLotus Here you go, the link to the official Toyota tech site to download manuals:

https://www.lotustalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51152
01-29-2008 03:51 AM
SirLotus If you have to replace it anyway, take it out and show it to the Toyota parts manager.
01-28-2008 10:26 PM
srwhitman
part #

I still don't see anyone posting the correct part # for a Toyota alternator (or any other). I called Toyota dealer and while he was willing to sell it to me, he mentioned that some alternators are different for that engine even for Toyota cars. In particular, automatic vs. stick is one difference but I think he said the Corolla has a version which uses the same engine as the Celica but its part # is different. If I get it from them, there is no guarantee it will work. Lotus price is $1300 ! Just for the part! Gulp!

Scott
08-30-2007 11:44 AM
glb Thanks, Tim.
08-30-2007 11:38 AM
TimMullen
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Originally Posted by glb View Post
Tim - where/how did you get the engine manual for Toyota? Cost?

thanks.

PS: When I rebuilt starters, the local shops always have the parts.
For a while, you could log onto the Toyota web site in Europe and for around $15 - 20 you could download the Celica Manuals similar to how we can do the Lotus Manuals.

Unfortunately, I didn't do that soon enough, so I was not able to get the exact part number manuals that Lotus specifies.

However, Toyota in the US has a similar "subscription" and download process. I signed up for one day of that and downloaded the Celica Manuals. It's a bit more of a hassle than the Lotus manual since each section is a separate PDF file - the diagrams above came from 7 different PDF files that cover "The Charging System" - probably about 10 or 12 pages total. But I have the Manuals for the Engine and Transmission (although the US version of the Transmission - different sixth gear ratio).

Now, you are going to ask for the URL - I don't remember anymore - I downloaded the stuff about two years ago. I think it might be in the sticky thread about downloading the Lotus Manuals.



08-30-2007 11:03 AM
glb Tim - where/how did you get the engine manual for Toyota? Cost?

thanks.

PS: When I rebuilt starters, the local shops always have the parts.
08-30-2007 10:52 AM
TimMullen You didn't say how many miles you have on the car, but chances are if it stopped charging (the charge light is on), then the brushes are worn out. They are rather easy to replace. Since most mechanics replace alternators instead of repairing them, I highly doubt that they will have the brushes in stock, so you will have to special order them from your local Toyota dealer). Even at a dealer, I would be fairly surprised if the replacement brushes/holder would exceed $50.

You have to remove the alternator and remove the brush holder, then replace parts. The only other parts that normally go bad electrically are the voltage regulator and/or the rectifier - but when they go bad, there is usually other signs other than it's not charging. I've replaced lots of brushes, but never the other electrical parts in an alternator.

If you don't feel up to the challenge of "rebuilding" the alternator, you can usually find a local auto electrical shop that will do the rebuilding (they are the people that rebuild the ones that the auto parts stores are selling). If you take your old alternator in to them they can usually rebuild it and have it back to you in a couple of days for a lot less than buying a rebuilt alternator from a store.

If you rebuild it your self, or take the alternator someplace to get it rebuilt, you are going to have to remove it from the car. Otherwise, you are going to pay someone a fairly hefty labor charge to remove a couple of bolts (especially when they find out it's a Lotus $$$$)

I haven't checked (nor needed to remove my alternator) but since the alternator is mounted on the top side of the engine, chances are you remove the alternator from the top of the engine in the Elise. The diagrams below are from the Toyota Engine Manual, but they should be the same.

The alternator is only held on with a couple of bolts - you have to use a socket/wrench to let the tension off the serpentine belt, then remove the alternator. First diagram.

Once off, you start the disassembly. Second diagram is exploded view, third is the disassembly instructions to get you to the brushes.

Fourth diagram is how to check the brushes to see if they need replacing.

Fifth diagram is the installation instructions with torque values for the bolts.



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