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I really feel for you guys in the States - seem like you've really been shafted re delivery. Not to rub it in, but thought I might share my thoughts after two months of living with the 111r.

First thing to note, I waited a month between order and delivery!

The car is a daily driver for me. Everyday, I make my way through Sydney traffic for a 15 km drive to work. It deals very well in traffic and is extremely comfortable. In fact, contrary to popular belief, it actually makes traffic driving enjoyable (rather than tiresome). You zip out of lanes briskly (if you keep revs up), have chats to admiring fellow motorists, and generally just enjoy the ambience of this beautiful car.

Conversely, I have taken it for country drives of 4 hours or so and got out of the car fresh - the ride is surprisingly supple. I'd have to say 4 hours in my previous car (S2000) was much harder work than the Elise.

Good bits that won't surprise anyone
1. Handling is amazing with cornering speeds I never thought possible - even in off camber corners (It's hard to believe there is so much weight on the rear wheels as it doesn't feel snappy at all) Our roads vary considerably in quality from marble smooth freeways to almost gravel like main roads. The car was fantastic on both and did not seem to "train-line" at all with road bumps etc
2. The push in the back at 6,500rpm is amazing - smoother than the S2000 but still brutal in its own way. You don't have to work that hard to get the most of the car. That said, I try to hold revs at above 4,000 to ensure greater responsiveness when I need it
3. Brakes are brilliant - very progressive. I do not heal-toe most of the time so I don't have a gripe about the amount of travel versus the clutch. However, when I did have to rely on the ABS once (my fault - lost attention re traffic conditions ahead). I was a little disappointed at stopping power.
4. Great for picking up chicks (except when wife is in the car). A little odd having business cards left on your windscreen with lipstick marks on them!

Good bits that may surprise you
1. Low down torgue is actually quite good despite Vtec style torque curve. Low weight compensates for this
2. Swallows a lot of luggage! Can do a week's grocery shopping without any problem. Also no problems with a golf bag (if you strap in place in the passenger seat)
3. Exit and entry is actually quite simple (at least if you are 5ft7 and 75 kg) Entry is simple - there is an art to getting out (especially with the roof on). Push the seat fully back - one leg out, brace yourself on the steering wheel and on seat back and push yourself out. Quite dainty once you get the hang of it
4. The roof doesn't leak! I ahve been caught in several significant downpours (and also my car is parked outside at work) with no problems at all
5. It's really easy to drive - both my wife and my 65 y/old Dad have taken it for a spin with no complaints

Bad bits that won't surprise you
1. Roof is a bugger to put on or take off. I'm lucky that in Sydney the weather is mild so it remains off for most of the time
2. Exhaust sounds reasonably porno but not as throbbing as I'd expected. 111s system sounds a lot better
3. Ground clearance is a little concern - I have already scratched the "splitter" bits on the front airdam several times

Bad (niggly) bits that may surprise you
1. Number plates are a pain to fix on. Because of the flat undertray and the design of the front and rear bar, you have to basically use a self tapping screw right into the body. And with vibration (even just 2months worth), this tends to loosen and eat away at the hole.
2. Wiper on intermittent setting wipes just a little too quick and starts scratching a little
3. Stereo in Aus / UK spec car is set in front of the passenger and has annoying button configuration (I have the touring pack with the upgraded MP3 capable system)
4. If you have a passenger, don't get in the car at the same time!! You are bound to clash elbows or shoulders given the lack of gap between seats
5. Aircon / heater is quite noisy as even the lowest fan setting is very powerful

Fundamentally, all issues above are minor non-issues. The only thing I sometimes question is the quality and feel of the tactilce components - eg: power window button amd indicator staks that looks like it came out of a Hyundai. I am not expecting Audi TT quality/feel (given the "barebones" intent of the car) but I thought greater attention to internal aesthetics and quality would have been nice

Notwithstanding, there is nothing else on the road like it - performance, presence and pornstar value are amazing for the price! (some guy guessed it was worth AUD 400k - the price of a 360 modena in australia basically)

Best perspective of the car? Definitely back view (prominent diffuser is dead sexy) or front on (see photo with my dad at the wheel)
 

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First of all congradulations on the car:clap: Top stuff!!
Secondly, come and pick me up some time I live in Sydney aswell:bow:
 

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nice review! with all of our waiting, some good news is certainly welcome!:bow:
 

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Pimping said:
First of all congradulations on the car:clap: Top stuff!!
Secondly, come and pick me up some time I live in Sydney aswell:bow:
M8,

Do you know whether there is an active Lotus community in Sydney? I live in the Lower North Shore and have spotted a Yellow 111s, a Green and Yellow S2, and a couple of S1s around the place.
 

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Great writeup, gives us something to look forward to.

BTW>HermansLotus (name is Mitch) has a lot of friends in OZ perhaps he can help with question of Lotus activities around Sydney. Another fellow that's a member ACP also has a 111R, think he's got the first car that came to OZ, don't remember where hes' located in OZ tho.

Chris
 

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nice review! with all of our waiting, some good news is certainly welcome!:bow:
I have been reading all the posts about the delays - must be really frustrating. Believe me, it's definitely worth the wait!

Forgot to note another gripe - the engine seems to take a long time to warm up. I often get caught out by the progressive redline with the engine limiter kicking in at 4,500rpm!
 

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Hope this is coming across as a gripe about the Elise but there is one thing which is very irritating....

Has a habit of stalling, often when just taking out of first or reverse gear. I think it is something quite well documented with other reports in the UK. Something to do with the engine management system I think.

Just look at it this way...all problems will probably be fixed by the time it arrives in the US.



Another photo...with that very sexy rear end and diffuser
 

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me extricating myself from the car!

this photo was taken in the first week of owning the car...I am much more dainty now :D
 

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Hey suit36, who is your insurance company and how much?:confused: I ask cause I`m 23yr and was looking to purchase a Exige S2 although I`ll have trouble finding someone to insure me.

I`m not looking foward to the answer:no:
 

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Pimping wrote "The only `Lotus Club` I have heard of is this

http://www.clublotus.com.au/

Don`t know if that is any help. "

Well luckily for you guys there is a VERY active club here called Aussie Elises, been going nearly a year now and we have 98 members. May not sound like a lot, but when you realise there are only approximately 200 Elises in Australia, that is nearly 50% of owners, and increasing daily. Come pay a visit and join the NSW gang for a run - http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/AussieElises

Giles in Perth
 

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How is the color in terms of other cars seeing you on multilane roads? Many like bright colors for small cars since that increases visibility. I can't tell you how many folks started changing into my lane on the highway with the bright red Europa though. Gotta be ready to evade and hit the horn. You should see their faces when they discover someone was already in that lane! Most of my Europa street driving was in the early 90s and prior. B4 the SUV craze...

Stan
 

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A lady in a rush to get to work didn't maintain her lane discipline and almost hit me turning left (I was in the outer lane) this morning. I guess it happens because of poor driver awareness!

Thanks for chiming in suit36. I have been waiting for more pictures of your beautiful ST car.
 

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We haven't been shafted... yet...
They're stroking us.... Building up demand, raising desirability, and trying to give the car a heavy aura of exclusivity, all in stages, because they certainly cannot build enough Elises to satisfy the Rest of the world market(despite lower UK sales).
They do need the money to continue development of the next chassis to be priced in the premium market.

BMW did the same with the Beon, VW did it with the NuBug, which are now as common as dirt even in the midwest of USA.
Difference is... They can build too many.

Jmo.
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suit36 said:
2. Exhaust sounds reasonably porno but not as throbbing as I'd expected.
So, is it more of a low groaning sound or a high pitch constant scream? :confused:
 

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A lady in a rush to get to work didn't maintain her lane discipline and almost hit me turning left (I was in the outer lane) this morning. I guess it happens because of poor driver awareness!
This exact move is becoming the most common hazard on the road. I don't know when or why it started, but it seems NOBODY completes their turn in the same lane they started. We have several double turn lanes on my commute, and its gotten to where no SUV stays in the inner lane... they just sweep out into the second one. If I pull up to their inside nose and get on the horn, they look all shocked, like "How could there be a car in my other lane?!".

If I wanted an insurance claim on an old beater, that seems like a sure-fire way to collect. I bet I could get hit in less than 30 minutes doing nothing wrong.. just keep turning from the outside-lane in someone's blind spot.
 
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