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So tonight I was on my way home back up in lake arrowhead and I was hit by a white toyota/acura thing. Whatever, He came into my lane, to avoid hitting him, I went into the opposite (where he came from) he then decided to come back to his lane after realizing where he was. to avoid a head-on I tried to drive up the side of the mountain and roll it, he drove right into me and destroyed my car. Both me and my passenger walked away without a scratch. (4-POINT HARNESSES WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!) the other people had injuries. i'm the only one with tire marks from throttle (tires made some burn from stopping) hit the dire top flew off dirt and his blistering hot coolant and windscreen wash came showering in =( and somehow I'm being made P1!!! I'm going back in the morning to take detailed pictures. Anyone who has been through this knows how much it sucks . . . I'm sorry to have to add this car to the list :sad:

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At least both of you you are ok ...

so sad about your car :(
 

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So tonight I was on my way home back up in lake arrowhead and I was hit by a white toyota/acura thing. Whatever, He came into my lane, to avoid hitting him, I went into the opposite (where he came from) he then decided to come back to his lane after realizing where he was. to avoid a head-on I tried to drive up the side of the mountain and roll it, he drove right into me and destroyed my car. Both me and my passenger walked away without a scratch. (4-POINT HARNESSES WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!) the other people had injuries. i'm the only one with tire marks from throttle (tires made some burn from stopping) hit the dire top flew off dirt and his blistering hot coolant and windscreen wash came showering in =( and somehow I'm being made P1!!! I'm going back in the morning to take detailed pictures. Anyone who has been through this knows how much it sucks . . . I'm sorry to have to add this car to the list :sad:

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Hire a forensic investigator and challenge the report. It will pay for itself many times over. Very happy that no one was seriously injured.
 

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Dude, no way! I'm really glad you're OK. I've been there, and I know how much it sucks. I'm sure I'll talk to you this week. Hang in there.
 

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ouch

sorry to hear about this. Accidents are never fun. when will people learn to drive so that the roads will be safe for the rest of us!!!
 

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So sad to see another Elise destroyed but I'm so glad that you and the passenger are unscratched!!!
 

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sorry about the car dude...but i'm glad you guys are unhurt. Challenge the report and get the insurance money from the guy that hit you. People need to learn how to drive :(
 

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I learned in defensive driving that when a car is in your lane, you are not supposed to move into their lane to avoid them, but rather move as far to the right as you can because they are likely to try to move back into their lane which they did.

I'm not sure if that was possible here...



What was wrong with the driver? Drunk? Retarded? Foreign?
 

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I learned in defensive driving that when a car is in your lane, you are not supposed to move into their lane to avoid them, but rather move as far to the right as you can because they are likely to try to move back into their lane which they did.
Yep, learned the same. Get as far to the right and slow your car as much possible.

Of course it is very hard to second guess Cinesnow's actions. You still have to evaluate everything that is happening and react the best way possible. I have seen a similiar accident avoided before, by someone doing the same as Cinesnow. Had that car gone to the right, they would have hit the other car head on.

Cinesnow and his passenger and those in the other car all survived and that is what matters most. Cars can be replaced!
 

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and somehow I'm being made P1!!! I'm going back in the morning to take detailed pictures. Anyone who has been through this knows how much it sucks . . . I'm sorry to have to add this car to the list :sad:
I made P1 as well... some idiot runs a stop sign and t-bones me and it's my fault... go figure :shrug: probably gonna take this one to court if needed. Best of luck with your situation.
 

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My gosh....glad you were o.k. for sure, and your passenger...

When you said you decided to roll it...do you have a roll bar? Did you have hard top or soft top on?
 

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Glad everyone survived. First, in the light of day, go back and take detailed photos. Not just the scene, but go backward for maybe a quarter mile and photograph any evidence you encounter: from both your car and the one that hit you. Next, sit down and write a detailed, I SAY AGAIN, DETAILED chronological log of everything that happened; beginning about 15 minutes before the crash right up to the crash; and afterward. Write down anything you may have said and anything the other driver may have said while it's still fresh.

I'm assuming this was investigated by CHP. Contact their office and find out if it's being "written off" or is being investigated or reconstructed. If there were no major injuries then its unlikely they will spend a lot of time on it. It'll be a cursory investigation with enough supporting documentation to establish the elements of Reckless Driving or whatever is charged. They are far too busy to take it any further.

Was anybody arrested or cited at the scene? Were the cars merely towed to clear the scene or were they seized as evidence? There's a ton of questions here.

If protecting your drivers license, keeping your insurance rate out of the ozone, replacement of the car is an issue; you may want to hire an attorney who specializes in accidents and can do a proper reconstruction to support your claims.

Accident investigation is a science. You really do need experts on your side if your being prosecuted. Additionally, the occupants of the other car are most likely going to do whatever they can to get at your assets and ruin your life.

I will be at CA Speedway this weekend; HSR-West races. I drive a Lotus 61, #47. Track me down in the pits and bring your stuff and I'll try and answer any questions that I can.

Glad your healthy, hope all works out..
Carl
Washoe County Sheriff's Office, Major Accident Investigation Team Commander, retired..
 

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Glad everyone survived. First, in the light of day, go back and take detailed photos. Not just the scene, but go backward for maybe a quarter mile and photograph any evidence you encounter: from both your car and the one that hit you. Next, sit down and write a detailed, I SAY AGAIN, DETAILED chronological log of everything that happened; beginning about 15 minutes before the crash right up to the crash; and afterward. Write down anything you may have said and anything the other driver may have said while it's still fresh.

I'm assuming this was investigated by CHP. Contact their office and find out if it's being "written off" or is being investigated or reconstructed. If there were no major injuries then its unlikely they will spend a lot of time on it. It'll be a cursory investigation with enough supporting documentation to establish the elements of Reckless Driving or whatever is charged. They are far too busy to take it any further.

Was anybody arrested or cited at the scene? Were the cars merely towed to clear the scene or were they seized as evidence? There's a ton of questions here.

If protecting your drivers license, keeping your insurance rate out of the ozone, replacement of the car is an issue; you may want to hire an attorney who specializes in accidents and can do a proper reconstruction to support your claims.

Accident investigation is a science. You really do need experts on your side if your being prosecuted. Additionally, the occupants of the other car are most likely going to do whatever they can to get at your assets and ruin your life.

I will be at CA Speedway this weekend; HSR-West races. I drive a Lotus 61, #47. Track me down in the pits and bring your stuff and I'll try and answer any questions that I can.

Glad your healthy, hope all works out..
Carl
Washoe County Sheriff's Office, Major Accident Investigation Team Commander, retired..
:bow: <------- For so many reasons...okay for at least 61 reasons. ;) Seriously - great advice.
 

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:huh: WTF? Neil, when everything is settled, I'd love to hear the explanation behind this.
Yap, I lost sleep over this the first couple of months. But now my lawyer has made the appropriate steps to fight the whole thing, one of which includes hiring an Accident Investigation etc. the evidence rarely lies, people do... yes, even 65 year old women :mad: One major thing i've discovered in the whole thing is if you are driving a nice sports car, you are guilty until proven innocent. :rolleyes:

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Yap, I lost sleep over this the first couple of months. But now my lawyer has made the appropriate steps to fight the whole thing, one of which includes hiring an Accident Investigation etc. the evidence rarely lies, people do... yes, even 65 year old women :mad: One major thing i've discovered in the whole thing is if you are driving a nice sports car, you are guilty until proven innocent. :rolleyes:

Neil
This is so true. In my accident back in '05, where a guy who was blinded by the sun suddenly turned head-on into me - mind you this was at 7:30ish on a Sunday morning - there was a "witness" who said I was speeding. He was a guy walking down the sidewalk. Never mind that he did not have a radar detector, he simply heard my engine and saw a sleek sports car pass by. You know, the one that was two blocks from my home and hadn't warmed enough to hit 5k rpm. :rolleyes: He also stated that I was on my cell phone, lol. Who am I calling at that hour on a Sunday? I showed my phone and the call log to the officers who quickly dismissed his account, but you could tell the bias was there on the part of the witness. I was cleared 100% of liability, but I can see how it can go wrong, quick.
 

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Mark, that totally sucks...glad you and your passenger are OK!!!

the elise on the other hand is toast

if i were you i would take these peoples advice, esp from Stiggy...and get an accident invetigator ASAP!!!

let us know how it goes
 
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