55,580,433 of your fellow voters did, if voting for Kerry is buckling to terrorists.Stan said:I'm glad that (among other things) the US did not buckle like Spain did when threatened by the Terrorists.
I guess you follow the propaganda newscasts. The truth is that the PP has pissed all the autonomies on their positions with the integration with the EU, not trying to conserve languaje and traditions of the different spanish autonomies.Stan said:I'm glad that (among other things) the US did not buckle like Spain did when threatened by the Terrorists. If you give in it just gives them more power. If you recall the commuter train bombings in Spain, they swung the Spanish elections to the liberal folks who immediately caved in and quickly pulled all of their troops out from the war. I guess they are awaiting more orders from Bin Laden as they bite their finger nails cowering in fear.
lolAncient Wedgie said:Dear M. Steff,
1. It's ironic that British humor is in lockstep with the view of a French Philosopher, Blaise Pascal. Paraphrasing him for the Anglophile: when your recent history is full of abject failure, it pays to view everything in your bleak life with humor or you'll have to pay that therapist which, according to Steff, is proof you're no adult.
2. Considering that armed Americans bailed you out of two world wars, just who between the two of us know how and when to use our weapons? No matter. We're perfectly content on letting your burglars come storming into your house while you're stuffing your faces with mutton because they <b><i>know</i></b> you're unarmed, at the same time that we dumb Americans sit contentedly, unconcerned at home because Joe Needafix was blown from here to kingdom-come last week when he tried the same thing with one of my neighbors. <b>As a consequence our burglars at least have the decency -- or maybe the common sense? -- not to try with me what your burglars have been empowered by <b>your (fearful-of-the-armed-subject) rulers</b> to do to you.</b>
My understanding was that many people voted for Kerry because they thought he could handle the war on terror better than Bush, no?? Obviously if those votes were for someone who would completely buckle to terrorists, no one would vote for him. I'm saying this as someone who didn't vote for him.Lotus Fury said:55,580,433 of your fellow voters did, if voting for Kerry is buckling to terrorists.
Oh, and the "reason" people voted for Bush: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3449870/Vantage said:My understanding was that many people voted for Kerry because [blah blah blah].... didn't vote for him.
Let’s face it. It’s not Kerry’s fault. It’s not Nader’s fault (this time). It’s not the media’s fault (though they do bear a heavy responsibility for much of what ails our political system). It’s not “our” fault either. The problem is just this: Slightly more than half of the citizens of this country simply do not care about what those of us in the “reality-based community” say or believe about anything.
They don’t care that Iraq is turning into murderous quicksand and a killing field for our children. They don’t care that the Bush presidency has made us less safe by creating more terrorists, inspiring more anti-American hatred and refusing to engage in the hard work that would be necessary to make a meaningful dent in our myriad vulnerabilities at home. They don’t care that he has mortgaged our children’s future to give trillions to the wealthiest among us. They don’t care that the economy continues to hemorrhage well-paying jobs and replace them with Wal-Mart; that the number without health insurance is over forty million and rising. They don’t care that Medicare premiums are rising to fund the coffers of pharmaceutical companies. They don’t care that the air they breathe and the water they drink is being slowly poisoned and though they call themselves conservatives, they even don’t care that the size of the government and its share of our national income has increased by roughly a quarter in just four years. This is not a world of rational debate and issue preference.
It’s one of “them” and “us.” He’s one of “them” and not one of “us” and that’s all they care about. True it’s an illusion. After all, Bush is a millionaire’s son who went to Yale and Harvard and sat out Vietnam, not even bothering to show up for his cushy National Guard duty, and succeeded only in trading on his father’s name and connections in adult life. But somehow, they feel he understands them. He speaks their language. Our guys don’t. And unless they learn it, we will continue to condemn this country and those parts of the world it affects to a regime of malign neglect at best—malignant and malicious assault at worse.
Given the media’s talent for pandering to their lowest common denominator, the things that have driven us crazy about their past pathetic performance are bound to get a lot worse. Most of us—readers and writers of this web log and peoplelikeus-- derive an awful lot of benefit from being Americans. We owe it to our better selves, and though it sounds horribly clichéd, to our children-- not to walk away from this battle. I will admit, however, it’s pretty damn hard to see through this fog just where to turn before we march.