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Hi, new to the board.

Warning: Long story.....

My wife and I just bought a Subaru BRZ limited MT a few weeks ago.....only to have the car sold out from under us (by a dealer in CA for $7K over MSRP) who was supposed to ship it to us......after giving the local Phx dealer $4200 in cash, trading in our old car and signing all the paperwork.

Turned out to be a blessing in disguise as the BRZ/FRS is having some first year production issues with cam gears and ECUs throwing CEL and exhibiting rough idle.

Which brings us to Lotus. For YEARS I've loved the Elise. The wife has always liked them too and before we bought our Lexus IS250 in 2007, we considered getting one but went with the 'practicality' of 4 doors for those rare times when we have family in town. We also have a Jeep Tj, 4x4 Cummins 3/4T, Toyota 4Runner and a street legal rockbuggy....so we have other vehicles (and only 2 drivers) for when family is in town.

After the deal fell through for the BRZ, we started looking at other options and I just about had her talked into a used Elise....until she found videos online of people trying to get in and out of one.

I'm 6', 216 lbs. I'm not tiny, but I'm not huge either. I'm thinking the Elise may not be very comfortable, but I don't mind sacrificing comfort for performance either.....the rockbuggy is probably just about as small inside (46.5" wide inside).

My wife is concerned that she won't be able to get in and out of the car....it'll likely be a daily driver for her and she's a trooper about performance over comfort as well....so she *may* still be on board if we decide to get an Elise.

The point of my post is to find out if you guys have a local club meeting where she might be able to see your cars and (with proper instruction, of course) sit inside one just to see if it's going to be completely impractical for her to own.

We live in Mesa, and we have somewhat regularly seen a red and an orange Elise around here.....I'm hoping perhaps one of the owners locally will be kind enough to let us take a look.

If that's possible, please post up and we'll arrange a meeting time/place.

Thanks very much for reading.

Take care,
Sean King
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Sean,

We can find a few minutes to get together to show you my car. We'll be at Tempe Diablo stadium parking lot Saturday for a PCA autocross if you want to stop by. I'll even give you a spin around the autox course so you can see what the car can do. This is our "street" Lotus, not the XP monster.

Cheers,

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Sean,
As a note, there are several 6 foot plus people who drive an Elise on the forums. Some have purchased "tall rails" to get a tad more headroom (when they wear helmets).
 

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Sean,

We can find a few minutes to get together to show you my car. We'll be at Tempe Diablo stadium parking lot Saturday for a PCA autocross if you want to stop by. I'll even give you a spin around the autox course so you can see what the car can do. This is our "street" Lotus, not the XP monster.

Cheers,

Fred
Fred,

That is one VERY generous offer....I'm super excited about the possibility. Thank you. :)

However, a very close friend of mine just called last night (guy is like a father and a mentor to me) and needs help on Saturday with calculating the IC, roll axis, anti-squat/dive, roll centers, oversteer/understeer, etc. on the 4 link suspension on a buggy he's building.....I told him I'd be up there (in Wickenburg) at 8:30am on Saturday.

What time would you be at Tempe Diablo Stadium? I may be able to push the time back with my friend.....or make it back down to Tempe in time to meet after going up to Wickenburg to meet my friend.

I live in east Mesa, so it takes me about an hour and a half to get up to his place in Wickenburg.

It all depends on when you are available. I really appreciate the offer and I hope I don't come across as an inconsiderate jerk for asking to see your car and then seemingly dictating terms. That's not my intent, but I've already said I'd help my friend out and I'd like to keep my word if at all possible.

Hope you understand....

Please let me know a time and the wife and I will definitely try to make it. I will also not leave you hanging....once I know the time you'll be there, I'll either commit 100% or tell you it's a no-go for Saturday....that way you're not waiting around for us.

Thanks again. Very kind of you to offer.

Sean
 

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Getting in / out is 100 % technique....( Believe me ! )
 

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Sean,
As a note, there are several 6 foot plus people who drive an Elise on the forums. Some have purchased "tall rails" to get a tad more headroom (when they wear helmets).


I searched "tall rails" but only came up with posts about seat rails. I take it these are rails for the soft top that sit higher?

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Sean
 

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Fred,
You never replied about the time and when I looked up autocross for Tempe Diablo for today, I got a website but no time frame.

Justracing Event Calendar

MotorsportReg.com : PCA - Arizona announces Autocross #2 (Sat 20, Oct 2012) info at Tempe Diablo Stadium, Tempe, AZ 85282 (3547)

Arizona Region Porsche Club of America - Home Page

Unfortunately, I couldn't seem to find the time for when the races would start. So....just wanted to let you know if you see the thread that my wife and I won't make it so don't wait around for us or anything.

I sincerely appreciate the offer, and hopefully we can meet up at another time.

Thank you again for being so kind.

Take care,
Sean King
 

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Sean K,
Exactly right.
 

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Bump.....just wondering if anyone is still interested in showing off their Elise and letting my wife try and sit in it. :)

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Sean
 

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Sean, If you are willing to meet me half-way in Tucson this Saturday I will be happy to help you out. I live about an hour south and east of Tucson.
 

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Sure

I'm putting a larger fuel tank in this week.....i am in Glendale! Pm me and we can work something out
 

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Guys, let me get with the wife and find out if she wants to head down to Tucson or over to Glendale. She has a charity walk on Saturday morning.....so I'm not sure how that will factor in.

As soon as I know more, I'll post up.

Thanks so much for the offers. :)

Sean
 

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Just spoke to my wife....her walk is going from 8:30a to 1p or so.....so heading to Tucson is going to take too long and be too late in the day.

Addertooth....thanks so much for the kind offer.

lt0302....I'll send a PM about trying to set up a meeting whenever you are available.

Thanks again guys....much appreciated.

Take care,
Sean
 

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Just wanted to publicly thank lt0302 for showing us his Elise this evening. He's a heck of a nice guy and his Elise is absolutely sick! It's even better looking in person!

Andy took time to really explain everything about the Elise platform and some of the many mods he's done to his car.....

My wife and I greatly appreciate it.

Thank you, Andy.

Sincerely,
Sean and Stacey King
 
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