To my surprise, there are very few threads in this subforum regarding suspension setups; what is the 'best' (possibly subjective) entry level coilover? My car will be ~85% street driven/15% track. TIA
You don't find that you're bottoming out your stock suspension? In long sweepers, my Elise would bottom out completely on the LSS suspension on Toyo R888's. I'm running Nitron singles now with the "soft" springs from S111, which are almost double the spring rate from LSS, and it's a night and day difference in terms of how the car handles at the very limit.My car is almost exclusively track, I'm an instructor, run slicks and am rather fast for my run groups (run with 911 Cup cars, etc.). I'm on the stock '06 Exige suspension.
My point - for what you're doing mod other parts of the car first. The stock suspension setup is great.
Actually yes, I do bottom out from time to time and mostly as you say in high speed sweepers. I'm pulling up to 1.7G laterally and yes, I've grown beyond the stock suspension. I'll most likely be replacing mine over the winter break.You don't find that you're bottoming out your stock suspension? In long sweepers, my Elise would bottom out completely on the LSS suspension on Toyo R888's. I'm running Nitron singles now with the "soft" springs from S111, which are almost double the spring rate from LSS, and it's a night and day difference in terms of how the car handles at the very limit.
I do agree with you that it takes a lot of practice to reach this point, though, and I only upgraded suspension because I had to install a new one anyway due to damage.
This, I can agree with. The stock lotus suspension is excellent, and IMO, you would replace it once you absolutely know that this is what limits you, and when you know it's your suspension that limits you, you know why I tracked for three years on the stock suspension, using my car probably 50% track / 50% street in terms of mileage driven.My point was meant as you're on a fantastic entry level system already, anything you'd upgrade to would be beyond entry level - so if that's what you're looking for the great, you already have it. If you're looking to do some mods and spend some money on your car my advice is spend it in other areas...
Thanks Andy, while I get called a lot of things during the day it's rarely rationalGreat advice for OP. Just a s a personal observation, rosscarlson always seems to post rational, well-articulated posts about track-related topics, and I'd take his advice more seriously than most.
My 2 cents: You're starting with a setup from one of the greatest suspension engineering firms in the world. The stock setup is biased a bit towards ride comfort, but just a bit, the LSS towards compression for the track. You can go pretty freaking fast on a track, not to mention the road, with either. Or put another way, a good to very good driver on a stock suspension with the skinny front wheels will very likely be some seconds faster than a newbie+ with all the Nitrons in the world.
If you feel like the need to change something out though, and boy do I know that feeling, another option for pure fun and ability to dial in a bit of road comfort is the Lotus Ohlins double adjustable setup.
Since I will probably get flamed for this, I will risk it anyways as this particular set up has done QUITE well in the NSX, S2000, WRX, Honda...etc forums. BC Racing. I have been doing a lot of research on these, and for $1000 with the ability to pick your spring rates and revalve for the original price, it is a pretty sweet deal, personally speaking. Also a great rebuild program as well.
Here is a link to the Lotus set up: INC. BC Racing Coilover Kit - Import Auto Performance
And you can upgrade for not much for Swift springs.
Here is a Review of them on LT: http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f172/review-bc-racing-coil-over-shocks-75035/