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I have a 2006 Elise with 16,400 miles. It has still original brake pads and discs. Recently, when I apply the brake pedal, there is a squeak that can be heard. However, upon pressing it harder, the noise goes away.

My car has 98% highway miles, and 2% twisties and stop and go traffic driving.

I checked the pads on the outside and it looks like lots of material left. However, I haven't checked the inner pads yet.

Few questions:
-Is it time to change the pads?
-Should I just replace with stock pads?
-Best place and price to pay for pads?
-Should brakes be bled at the same time, and if so, what fluids should be used?
-Also should all 4 pads be changed at one time, or rears first?

Thank you for your help.

Find someone local to have a look. Lotus club maybe? Those guys are always working on their cars. The obvious alternative is the dealer, but doing pads and even rotors is pretty simple maintenance, even if you're not handy.

Based on your use, stock pads are great. There are some cheaper alternatives (Porterfield, EBC, etc.) but the final decision is yours to make.

Stock pads? A dealer (doesn't have to be local). Aftermarket? Search the forums - lots of vendors with lots of solutions.

Quality fluid. Motul RBF and Castrol SRF (pricey) are popular.

Pads will come as a complete set for the "axle" - front or rear so you'll need 2 sets (1F, 1R). Change the whole axle - you don't *have* to do both F & R but do both sides of the car, regardless of which end you're doing.
 

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Thanks for the help Cody. Lotus, like other cars, do they install the squeal thing, where when it makes a noise, you know it is time for new pads?

Also what is the life expectancy of stock OEM pads on freeway/street driven cars?

Lastly, the squeak is there, at first application, when I touch the pedal, and goes away, as I press harder coming to a stop.

Thanks!
There are NO squealer bars on the Lotus pads. There will only be a horrible grinding noise as your rotors get eaten away and destroyed (read as $$$) if the pads wear out.

Don't have a good answer for expected life of the pads for you in terms of time. Get the pads' thickness checked regularly. That is the only really reliable way that I'm aware of...

Break squeak/squeal is not uncommon.
 

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Mine barely squeaked a little (2006 Elise, 21000 miles), and it was so minor that I ignored it. It was just occasional, and very soft, and not every time I drove it. Once or twice in a week, maybe, and this is my daily driver.

Then it was suddenly a deep horrendous scraping. Just like that.

Have them checked.
 

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We did not have to bleed the brakes.

I replaced with OEM.
 

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I have heard on occasion that the Pagids can be a bit weak until they warm up. I have never tried them myself - only OEM.

I ordered mine from Fox Valley Motorcars in West Chicago. I have always had good experiences with these people. They installed my supercharger and have done all my other service too.

He gave me a good deal on front rotors, and pads for all the way around, all for about 625 (at least, I think that's how much it was).

I did NOT check prices on two websites recommended by an experienced friend:
www.rdent.com and JAE - Vintage and late model Lotus car parts specialists You might try these independent parts dealers to see how they compare.
 

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regarding fluid, some internet gossip: From what I've read (keep in mind -- "internet"), Motul 600 is great for the track, but absorbs water faster than most, so it needs changing more frequently than many other top quality DOT4 fluids. For street, you can get away with using cheaper DOT4 fluids. If it's false, well screw me. :)
 

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I have a 2006 Elise with 16,400 miles. It has still original brake pads and discs. Recently, when I apply the brake pedal, there is a squeak that can be heard. However, upon pressing it harder, the noise goes away.

My car has 98% highway miles, and 2% twisties and stop and go traffic driving.

I checked the pads on the outside and it looks like lots of material left. However, I haven't checked the inner pads yet.

Few questions:
-Is it time to change the pads?
-Should I just replace with stock pads?
-Best place and price to pay for pads?
-Should brakes be bled at the same time, and if so, what fluids should be used?
-Also should all 4 pads be changed at one time, or rears first?

Thank you for your help.

Pagid blues (42S) are a great pad for the street & work fine on the track. Best price I have seen is Rennsport : www.RennStore.com -- The source for Pagid brake pads. I've got EBC rotors which seem fine and are half the price of stock, although I've heard rumors they wear the pads a bit faster. Best place to get 'em is:
Auto Parts Warehouse | Car Parts, Truck Parts & Auto Body Parts Online - Free Shipping on most Auto Accessories & Performance Parts - AutoPartsWarehouse. To check your pads just take off the wheels & look. You must look on both sides of the car as well as inside and outside pads, as they often wear unevenly, so don't get too lazy & just look thru your wheels.......If they're down to 3mm of material it's time to go. It the rotors are grooved/scored they should go, or if they are too thin (need a micrometer to check that).

DO NOT go with porterfields; they scored & ruined my rotors in 4 track days. I am told Hawk pads are a good alternative & cheaper, but I have not tried them. They are available from Forcedfed.
 
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