BrianK said:
Trying not to get too far off topic, what do you guys use for bleeding? Are you using some sort of a one way valve device? Speed bleeder (that's a pump, isn't it?)?
Do you pump the brakes to bleed? If so, do you pump all the way to the floor? (I've read that going all the way down is not good for certain parts - seals? - at least on the MR2)
maybe this should be a new topic.
to stay on topic, I'll add that I love the R4-S. I've heard people having some issues at high speed tracks with them after a long run, but I'd be willing to bet that the Elise's light weight will allow you to run them for quite a while before experiencing any problems (pure speculation on my part).
i've used Speedbleeders in the past quite a bit, and while they are VERY nice as far as a "ease of use" standpoint, if you don't have a problem getting a 2nd person to help you bleed, then I really wouldn't bother with them. I had an issue with one bleeders' thread compound (that is 'installed' on all speedbleeders, and is available for purchase as well) breaking apart & allowing some air to enter between the screw & caliper. Not really sure why, since I put more compound on the bleeder, but who knows ....

i'm personally fine with calling my neighbor over to "pump the pedal" ... he likes it too, because it makes him feel like he's doing "car work".
i tried the R4's for 2 sets, then tried the R-4S' after that .... there was a difference once the pads got VERY heated, but before that, they seemed to be quite the same.
The tech I talked to at PF always said that the R4 dusted a LOT mroe than the R-4S, but I never noticed a difference ... they both dusted quite a bit for my tastes. And that's why i'm powdercoating my LSS wheels flat black.
