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Crowded tracks really bothers me (and other drvers to) cuz I'm a slower driver. I'm trying to learn more about this exciting and enjoyable pastime but it's no fun with dozen cars tailing me and passing every few seconds!:eek:

So, on Saturday, June 6th, I'm going to try the "low car count" approach (14 cars) that SpeedVentures will be running at Buttonwillow. Aaron sez there will be "mature" drivers (very old people???:huh:) and it will be better for me. Of course it will be more money ($390/day) but I think it will be worth while for me.

This will give me more time to concentrate on driving:shift: instead of freaking out of the other cars trying to pass me:crazyeyes!

What scares me though is the High End cars signing up! Fast Porsches, Ford GTs, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Bugatti Veryons, and MIATAS!:eek:

There are some spaces left. Anyone to join us thart day (June 6th)?:wave:

--Hal, '05 Elise
 

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is it the whole day like a Jack day? or just a smaller run group? $390 is more than a Jack day
 

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is it the whole day like a Jack day? or just a smaller run group? $390 is more than a Jack day
Jack day is the best of the worlds...except it's on the weekdays.

There will be other groups, but it will be an entire day of HPDE.

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is it the whole day like a Jack day? or just a smaller run group? $390 is more than a Jack day
It's a SV special -- 5 sessions (probably 110 minutes of total track time) with ~ 15 cars on track for that run group. Expect some fast, expensive cars on track. The configuration is a fun one -- #1 CCW. :shift:
 

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dang it!!!!
I'll be at an SCCA dbl regional at Cal spdwy....otherwise this config. is a ton of fun!
 

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....otherwise this config. is a ton of fun!
I did the CW #13 config once. This will be the second time on BW. Now it's "backwards" from what I learned. :crazyeyes

Jack and Eddie: Is #1 CCW difficult for beginners? Why is it "fun"?:confused:

Any hints? I liked the "onramp" and the esses CW. :)

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IMHO the track is much safer going CCW, and it flows much better, sections connected in a more seamless way. There is now runoff on the exit of Phil Hill that gives you much more room if you happen to go a little hot and the car moves too much to the right. Also the entrance into the bus stop section is faster than it seems - and...there is a little double braking zone before you get into the cotton corner section on the top of the map. The road dips up and down, a tap before the road drops settles the car before a hard break into the left hander. The esses are very fast, and a slow roll and lift before Star Mazda is really fun...that's my fave corner in this config
 

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For me, I am still learning the 1A CCW config....it is a bit tricky, and I've driven it more in my SRF - the Star Mazda turn is reaalllyyy tricky in that car.
But like Peter said, if you can rotate the car, then you can get fast exit speed toward Magic Mtn.
The bus stop is also very high speed in this direction.

Both ways are fun, but I'm a little more used to the 13CW config....I like doing the sweeper in that direction.
 

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Also I like that out of phil hill, once you enter riverside you can just set the wheel and do a gigantic half circle allll the way to the bus stop - touching the top of the track before you get into the middle section. Takes some trust and cajones to get through there very hot...
 

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Any hints?
HOLD YOUR LINE!!!
if you are freaking out(as you put it in a post above), you are a liablity to yourself, and those trying to pass you.

just hold your line so you will be predictable to the cars passing you., and everything will be good for you, and those on the track with you.
 

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Crowded tracks really bothers me (and other drvers to) cuz I'm a slower driver. I'm trying to learn more about this exciting and enjoyable pastime but it's no fun with dozen cars tailing me and passing every few seconds!:eek:

So, on Saturday, June 6th, I'm going to try the "low car count" approach (14 cars) that SpeedVentures will be running at Buttonwillow. Aaron sez there will be "mature" drivers (very old people???:huh:) and it will be better for me. Of course it will be more money ($390/day) but I think it will be worth while for me.

This will give me more time to concentrate on driving:shift: instead of freaking out of the other cars trying to pass me:crazyeyes!

What scares me though is the High End cars signing up! Fast Porsches, Ford GTs, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Bugatti Veryons, and MIATAS!:eek:

There are some spaces left. Anyone to join us thart day (June 6th)?:wave:

--Hal, '05 Elise
Hmmm... isn't that the same day as the NCRC event, which is only $99 for five sessions?
 

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Saturday is closing in. There are a few spaces left.
Anyone to join us?:wave:

CCW Buttonwillow.:shift: Backwards. :eek: IN REVERSE!!!:panic:
I'm not sure I can drive the Elise in reverse through the entire course, without "offs". Thank goodness the Elise has somewhat of a rear view vision. Exiges are useless for this insanity, unless you use your side mirrors.

Wish me luck!:)

-Hal
 

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What scares me though is the High End cars signing up! Fast Porsches, Ford GTs, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Bugatti Veryons, and MIATAS!:eek:
hooked on driving up here (norcal) has been doing "sports and exotics" days like this for a couple years. 2 run groups, low car count, more money. well worth it though.

most folks can't even make it through a whole day, so the late afternoon sessions are almost private track time.

make sure you have new brake pads ...
 
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