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hey folks,
im thinking of buying a new desk top do it all computer....
ive always gone with windows pc in the past but i am getting so sick of buying anti virus programs and spyware programs and general problems with my pcs....
so i was thinking of switching to an IMAC.....then sony came out with their version of the imac....
basically i want ease of use, dependability, video copying, pictures, web, word processing, etc....also someone told me mac has a program that makes all pc programs compatible with mac, not sure if thats true...
im looking for pros and cons and why one over the other...
thanks all!

IMac page....probably would go with the 24" screen 3.06 version. (all the way to the right)
Apple Store (U.S.) - iMac

sony page...probably would compare to this one...
VGC-LT38E | | Sony | SonyStyle USA
 

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The one big problem with the Sony is that it runs windows... Not just Windows, but Windows Vista.

Go buy the mac. You will not be disappointed.

One nice thing about the maker of the OS and the maker of the hardware being the same company - they know what the other needs... they don't have to guess, don't have to handle thousands of different configurations, don't have to support hardware that was designed to be the cheapest on the shelf, etc. etc.
 

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I have a MacBook Pro running OSX10.5 (Leopard).

I have BootCamp installed which allows me to boot either MacOSX or Windows (XP Pro). If you do this, you'll need a copy of the Windows installer disks.

I partitioned my internal drive between Windows and MacOS. When running MacOS, I can see files stored in the Windows partition (MacOS has the smarts to do that). Windows can't see files in the MacOS partion.

There are other ways to run Windows under MacOS... I just don't.
 

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Mike:

Get the Mac, either have them set it up with dual-boot via Bootcamp as mentioned, or get enough RAM (4GB oughtta rock) and throwdown with "Parallels".

What's nice about Macs is you can bring them to any Apple store for service, like a (nice) car dealership. I can't say soo much for our PCs.

(BTW, I use (and own) both PCs and Macs, but use Macs almost exclusively at home)
 

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BTW, Sony preloads their PC's (well most PC companies do) with a sh*tload of trial software that you probably don't want or don't give a [email protected] about. At one time you actually had to pay $50 *EXTRA* to not have it installed.

Slashdot | Sony Offers Bloatware Removal Service — For a Fee [Updated]

There are actual utilities that have been developed to remove this sh*t, one is called "Decrapifier" LOL!

Here's more (and funny too):
Breaking: Sony Won't Charge $50 To Remove Bloatware | Gadget Lab from Wired.com
 

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so even considering the sony has a little bigger HD, a little more ram, AND has blu ray playback and recording, u would still go Mac?
 

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I recently purchased the big, honkin' Sony 17" VGN-AR770.. It was a little larger than I expected, but has a fantastic screen and more hookups than most desktops.. (Different memory card options, firewire.. etc) And yes.. unfortunately, it came with Vista.. I could complain about Vista.. but we've all been there and I'm getting used to the annoyances it has.. I've loaded it up with 3GB of ram, which helps.. and I use it primarily for software development and general office work..

I've not used apples very much since I develop software which primarily runs in the windows environment.. but those who have used them think they are they greatest thing ever.. I just don't think they're worth the premium price for middle of the road hardware..

I need to get that de-crapifier.. the Pre-installed AO-helL software has no uninstall feature. :thwack:
 

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I would go with the sony and vista myself, i've been really happy with vista so far, only hit a couple of small stumbling blocks on old or very specific hardware, i rarely ever use my mac there is really nothing i can find a specific user for it, or that i think it'd be easier to work with. (unless i have to write a mac specific application )

Being in more control of that hardware by limiting whats available is one thing, having a considerably larger installed userbase doing additional testing for you is another.

Sony hardware is top notch, thats why apple had them come in and do work for them, as well as pinch some of their design engineers.
 

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why do some of you hate vista so much?
to be honest, im sick of all the headaches with antivirus programs and such, and my pc laptops always need service within the first 2 years.
ive been told if the world went mac, half the scruffy IT people would have to find another line of work.
so the headaches is what got me looking at Macs....

but this sony looks really good...hmmmm....
 

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I've had an iMac (older G5 version) for over 4 years and no problems so far... I had switched from PC at that time and don't think I'll go back. Good luck with the decision.
 

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If you're not going to obssess about hardware spec, and you're not doing Wintel development (programming), I'd say go with the Mac. About the only thing that the Sony has on the Apple at that point is the BluRay read/write drive (and if you're not authoring BluRay discs, who cares? :p).
 

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Re PC : If your PC OS is up to date, and you dont surf porn, you wont get spyware, or viruses.

I am a developer, and I dont use antispyware, or antivirus ware, because it is worse than the viruses. Let Microsoft fight that battle with OS updates, which works really well. The PC people with problems dont update their OS, and surf porn. (or their kids surf porn)

-So if you like porn, and like a slightly gay computer, go with apple.

-If your serious about number crunching, and power, then PC is the only option.
 

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Re PC : If your PC OS is up to date, and you dont surf porn, you wont get spyware, or viruses.

I am a developer, and I dont use antispyware, or antivirus ware, because it is worse than the viruses. Let Microsoft fight that battle with OS updates, which works really well. The PC people with problems dont update their OS, and surf porn. (or their kids surf porn)

-So if you like porn, and like a slightly gay computer, go with apple.

-If your serious about number crunching, and power, then PC is the only option.
youre probably right, but i wouldnt need the damn computer if i wasnt gonna surf porn...:shrug:
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I'm a bit of a gamer so I would stick with the PC... you dont need to buy any antivirus or spy/adware removers(AVG, Ad-aware, Spybot are all free and work wonderfully)

go to Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!
buy all the parts you want and put it together yourself(and get OEM XP home)
it will be ALOT cheaper and no crap software on there

newegg might be slightly more expensive than other places but you cant beat their return policy
 

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My Sony VAIO just crashed and it would have been just as expensive to fix than to buy a new laptop. I drooled over the Mac's but when you add up everything you need they cost a good 2k. Ultimately, I just went out and bought an HP for $700. If you stay with a Windows based computer and you need a desktop, HP has a cool new touch screen desktop that looks cool for $1200.
 

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As for antivirus on the PC i'd go with NOD32 they've only had one hiccup and its no where near as unstable/intrusive as the others.

I know its not the form factor you're looking at, but dell they have some killer deals at the moment. dell coupons discount computer sale buy cheap digital camera cheap laptop Best Buy usually lists them out.

heres one.

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"ease of use, dependability, video copying, pictures, web, word processing, etc...."

-The learning curve for the mac should take you the afternoon.
-VERY dependable. VERY few issues if ever.
-Video... Almost all professionals use MAC computers, almost all amatures use MAC too... (Yes video pros, I know Avid is PC based, but final cut is giving Avid a run for its money in ease of use as well as cost)
-Web - Well, web is web. Safari is the MAC browser, you can get it now on a PC. Firefox is made for mac too. If you mean can you get into your router settings and tinker with things like that, yes.
-Word Processing - You can get MS Office for the mac.
- Bootcamp is the way to go to run XP and is very easy to set up. Try TinyXP.

Let me know if you have video for the mac questions... I will try to answer them.

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