:clap: :clap: EXACTLY:clap: :clap:Allan Gibbs said:Actually, what I think has happened is that some people ( prospectors, dealer owners, salesmen, etc.) go on the list very early on. Now that their cars are here, they're selling this car over MSRP and dealers are getting those cars and adding their cut.
Interetingly enough, I was talking to someone about contractual obligations for a buyer to keep the car for more than a year before reselling. Btw, did I mention this on Elisetalk before?JK68LC said:- If Lotus had put in place some measure to eliminate speculation, (right of refusal etc) the only people that would have complained would be speculators and not the customer like me who sincerely just want the car to keep.
Absolutely! It seems it was horribly, horribly managed, and speaks poorly of Lotus. Keep in mind that there are two separate entities to direct your ire at though - Lotus in the UK, and Lotus Cars USA. As I understand it, they are legally separate business entities. I believe the problem originated with Lotus in the UK, for we have pretty good proof that the build order of cars was mixed up, for reasons that aren't apparant. The result of this, is that one dealer I know has received their first two customer cars *before* their demo car. On top of that, those two customer cars are NOT for the first two customers on their list (well, I think one of the two is, but not the other). It seems like Lotus here in the US has been doing everything they can, but you could say their hands are tied, they get whatever cars the UK sends them to distribute.JK68LC said:What I am amazed the most over is that the cars hit dealers at such a different rate. That is something lotus could easily have coordinated better.
I am not saying that I know this is the case in this instance. All I am saying is that it seems really unusual for the reseller of the Elise in question to list several of the same car(s) as the Lotus dealership with the name of the dealership (intentionally ???)cropped out of the pictures.
Nicely put.Paul MD said:WHOLESALER???? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only 'WHOLESALER' around here is Lotus themselves!!! Unless the halfwit dealers have started selling each other their own cars at above MSRP prices...?!!?!??!