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I find myself going over this in my head constantly...there may be some rambling here, but hear me out for a moment.

Me personally, I've wanted a Lotus Esprit ever since I could first see/speak. I saw them as an infant, and was absolutely infatuated by them. My parents even noticed it. By the time I was 5, all I ever thought about was Lotus. To me, it always was the most true supercar. Given's it's time/generation, it was always very fast, absolutely stunning, cutting edge, ultra sleek, unreliable, and completely uncompromising, not to mention incredibly rare (even for a supercar). In essence it was everything a supercar should be, to me.

I was fortunate enough to buy my 1995 Lotus Esprit S4 one day shy of my 22nd birthday. I felt it was a great accomplishment. Some agree, but some say, well you could have just bought a new Accord or STi for the same money. To me, that means nothing though. I don't look at it as a 30 some thousand dollar car that many people could theoretically afford. To me, Lotus ownership is def. something to be proud of. I feel it takes a certain type of mentaility to own cars like these, and truly appreciate them. Additionally, they take a bit more money to maintain than the aforementioned.

Maybe It's just my lifelong obsession with them speaking, but I know there's a lot of people out there that only dream of owning the cars that we've been fortunate to experience and own. I mean, hell, so much in life car occur and get in the way of things we really want. My best friend growing up is my age (23), and we did EVERYTHING together. I mean from age 2, all the way through high school, we were so tight. We still are, but I mean, just 5 short years later, he met a girl, got married, and now has 3 kids. He loves it and he's also a great family man. But at the same token, he can't buy a Lotus, or anything for that matter for HIMSELF anymore. He's got a new life, and it's forever changed with his family now. On the otherhand, I went to college, bought a house, worked my ass off and bought my Lotus, and I am loving it just the same.

I don't know. I guess what I'm saying is that a lot of people will never own a Lotus or whatever car/possession they lust after. I feel truly lucky, and I hope you all do too. Appreciate them, take care of them, and drive them! You never know what might happen. We are the few who know the difference...
 

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Hey there, I get your point.

For me, I always wanted a Lotus, but a number of events in my life, notably school, having kids, changing jobs, moving cross country, were constantly causing me to make decisions that put it off.

I finally reached a point where I could afford to get a nice car and went after the Lotus. I could have had any of a number of cars, but I didn't even look. It was the Lotus I wanted, nothing else would do. I still have the Quattro for lugging the family around. But when it's just me, I drive the Lotus every chance I can.

The car represents finesse over raw power, an emphasis on balance and handling with a healthy dose of fun times. Philosophies that don't just apply to cars, but my outlook on life as well. The car and I are a good match. :)
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first off i love my Lotus, before buying and driving this car i knew i would like it, but NO i LOVE it

ive probably mentioned this before, but i see the Lotus as a "gateway drug" to faster, more expensive, more exotic supercars that i plan/want/dream to own in the future

so im just getting started, but yes 91MR2 i get your point

to everyone else no its not about LUCK its about making the right decisions, some learn early in life some dont learn it at all, but in a way consider us the fortunate/smart ones of the bunch

my .02
 

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A huge "accomplishment"?.... No.

IMO there are other "accomplishments" in life that are more important than owning your dream car. I get your point though. It's something you've always wanted and now you have it. So for that you feel you've accomplished something.

There are a "lot of other people that will never own a Lotus", simple because they could care less, not because they can't afford it. It's not a priority to them. The guy driving the $30K honda accord with a wife and 2 kids might have the same sense of "accomplishment".

So to quote Loanshark...."Congrats".


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While I love the Elise...it's just a car. The only qualification one needs to get it is having the finances to purchase it. Getting the finances is the accomplishment, not the car itself.

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^ Makes sense!
 

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While I love the Elise...it's just a car. The only qualification one needs to get it is having the finances to purchase it. Getting the finances is the accomplishment, not the car itself.

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I agree with Ed here. The car is the fruit of the past accomplishments. Unless, of course, your goal was to buy a Lotus, then that adds to the past accomplishments the accomplishment of fulfilling that goal :).
 

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ive probably mentioned this before, but i see the Lotus as a "gateway drug" to faster, more expensive, more exotic supercars that i plan/want/dream to own in the future
Exactly how I feel, I love it, can't wait to get it, but to me, I'd like to eventually get a range of supercars, topped off with that which I have lusted for since I was a child...Ferrari (and not some of those crappy late 70's ones you can get for 40K, I'm talking either great classics or new techno-machines).

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I think buying a new esprit is much closer to an accomplishment than the elise seeing as the esprit is 2x the price of the elise and is by far and all considered a true supercar by popular media standards.. not to mention the continual cost of maintenance etc.. The finances you need to purchase and maintain a late model v8 esprit are "up there"...

whatever 91mr2 paid for HIS esprit per se is one thing.. but keeping her and driving her a few years will yield his true ambition.. the maintenance can be frequent and expensive..

In regards to the elise.. it's an expensive car.. but not an outlandishly expensive car.. however for what you are getting 50k+ is a lot of money for such a bare bones car.. the esprit pushing 100k is priced out of the range of many perspective buyers..

thanks to something called depreciation esprits can be more affordable, but just like buying a f355 at an affordable price.. maintenance will be the true test of your financial accomplishment..
 

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My elise is a fun way of motoring. It is far too easy of a acquisition to consider an accomplishment. I like to think big. I would feel more accomplished for winning the nobel peace prize. :sheep:

Not only that, I can't think of many people who would take a car over their kids. :shrug:
 

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IMO there are other "accomplishments" in life that are more important than owning your dream car.
Agree.

If at the end of my life the car I drove was marked as one of my main accomplishments, then I would consider my life to be rather pathetic and a bit of a waste to be honest.

"An accomplishment" - yes.
"A huge accomplishment" in the grand scheme of things - no!
"Bloody fun to drive" - definately!!
 

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I'm probably in the minority here, but most "supercars" seem to be designed for somebody other than me. Too big, too heavy, too much luxury stuff that is honestly wasted on me. I still don't feel that buying the Elise is an accomplishment, though. Anybody with the money can walk right in and get one, hardly an exclusive league.
 

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Nice to have yes, great to drive YES, FUN FUN FUN yes. huge accomplishment not really, but congrats. By your own point anyone who buys a accord are STI can afford a Lotus, we may have better taste in cars but that does not make us better people.
 

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Not directed at the OP.

Reading this thread makes me think this:

True life "accomplishments" are not about money. Don't equate accomplishment with how much $$$ one can earn/save/spend during one's lifetime.

I really enjoy my Elise. I don't consider it a life accomplishment just because I was able to write a check for a car that brings me enjoyment.
 

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You grow up dreaming of sports cars.

Your favorite race team is Lotus.

You work hard. You earn the money.

You can't buy a sports car yet becuase you have kids and you need a big car.

So you keep dreaming.

And then...comes the moment.

You walk into South Bay Lotus, meet Abe and Qais, two of the coolest guys on the planet.

And see the most beautiful Lotus you've ever seen.

You trade in your big car.

And you buy a yellow Lotus with a black interior..

A huge accomplishment?

It took alot to finally get the Lotus. You bet.

Life is only so long.

You gotta do it.
 

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I think it depends on one's income. Having been enlisted in the military as a satellite orbital analyst, the pay-rate is quite communistic, such that a cook of equal time-in got the same pay as all the math-in-public I had to perform, but at just over twice minimum-wage after 15-years of service, getting a cool car was not very easy and required great sacrifice.

My first milestone was my Pontiac TransAm Firehawk. Slightly used at 19k miles and 6 months old I got it and a near-stolen price of $19,000 in 2000.

For me, after trading her in for a Elise is a big financial accomplishment for me personally, as the car is right on the edge of my financial ability.

Luckily I separated from the USAF and Raytheon's been knocking on my door for exactly the same job I was doing at 4x the pay. Say hello to Katana supercharger!

So, to some, the money is a non-issue. To others, a great struggle, and I think that if you have to really work for it, it is valued more and is a far bigger deal and loved with more gusto.
 

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I think buying a new esprit is much closer to an accomplishment than the elise seeing as the esprit is 2x the price of the elise and is by far and all considered a true supercar by popular media standards.. not to mention the continual cost of maintenance etc.. The finances you need to purchase and maintain a late model v8 esprit are "up there"...

whatever 91mr2 paid for HIS esprit per se is one thing.. but keeping her and driving her a few years will yield his true ambition.. the maintenance can be frequent and expensive..

In regards to the elise.. it's an expensive car.. but not an outlandishly expensive car.. however for what you are getting 50k+ is a lot of money for such a bare bones car.. the esprit pushing 100k is priced out of the range of many perspective buyers..

thanks to something called depreciation esprits can be more affordable, but just like buying a f355 at an affordable price.. maintenance will be the true test of your financial accomplishment..
I couldn't agree more. I think you and LARRY are the only 2 that "got" what I meant with this thread. This point of this thread has NOTHING to do with money. I was more interested in seeing who has been dedicated to the marque for a long time before they were finally able to make that first Lotus purchase. And no offense, but seeing a Lotus as a "gateway" car to "better" cars is what I was hoping NOT to see on here. I guess I was expecting more Lotus aficionados on here...
 
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