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I've let a few people use my home computer and they've somehow downloaded some sort of spyware (it's running Win XP Pro SP1).

I can't get to google, yahoo, tweakxp, etc...

I've removed my hosts file and let it rebuild (it's blank).
I've downloaded & run:
- Spybot Search & Destroy
- Spy Sweeper
- Ad-adware
- hijackthis

and still no luck. I haven't found much online that will help me, but then again, I can't search.

*ANY* help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Try a better browser such as Mozilla or Netscape (almost the same thing, really). If the problem doesn't occur then, I'd start investigating the various settings for Internet Exploder (Internet tab in control panel), and if nothing jumps out at you, download and install/reinstall the latest version of that.

If the problem occurs regardless of which browser you're using, I'd reinstall Windows and see if that fixes it.

Does XP use different user accounts? If so, try creating a new user and see if the problem is still present. Might be a decent workaround (move files to new user, delete old user).


Better solution:
Step 1 - sell Windoze computer
Step 2 - buy a Mac ;>
 

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How do you know (specifically) it's spyware?

You can get to some sites but not others?

Any rogue processes in Task Manager?

Are you still pointed to the correct DNS servers?

Anything strange in the Registry? (Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
in both HKLM and HKCU)

Anything strange in the Startup menu?

Perhaps try a different brand browser?

Can you get to Google via it's IP address? http://216.239.57.99

If you are still stuck, I can try remote controlling your computer, if you like.
 

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I am surprised Hijackthis did not solve it.

Hmm..

http://www.computing.net/security/wwwboard/forum/5728.html

Make sure to run an updated Spybot Search and Destroy before fixing these items using HijackThis.

Please read the comments I made before fixing the items. Why your two different Anti-Virus programs did not pick the viruses up I don’t know? But you should use the removal tools I gave URL’s to before fixing using HijackThis. There is a possible NEW malware BHO please could you send it to the e-mail I mentioned. And one of the BHO’s I gave a link for further removal instructions after fixing with HijackThis.

After running Spybot S&D, reboot. Close all browser windows and then fix all the following items using HijackThis. Reboot and check if everything listed is gone.

O2 - BHO: (no name) - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - (no file)

O2 - BHO: (no name) - {a4019fe0-5fdd-11d7-be86-444553540000} - (no file
http://hjt.wizardsofwebsites.com/
 

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MattG said:
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If the problem occurs regardless of which browser you're using, I'd reinstall Windows and see if that fixes it.
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I doubt the problem is that serious to warrant such drastic measures. Reinstalling will take at least another hour, much more if you have a lot of programs to reinstall.

Better solution:
Step 1 - sell Windoze computer
Step 2 - buy a Mac ;>
Ha, that's pretty funny. Spend $2k for the machine and >2x for any Mac-specific peripherals--my brother complains to me all the time about the costs. If you want to avoid Windows, just get one of the many free variants of UNIX. Apple's OS X is based on BSD UNIX, anyway.
 

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BrianK said:
I've let a few people use my home computer and they've somehow downloaded some sort of spyware (it's running Win XP Pro SP1).
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Next time, let them use limited guest accounts... or not at all.
 

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Thanks for the help guys... it turns out it was something that was installed on our gateway computer.. I fixed it and we're all hunky dory again.

I'm going out and buying a firewall router so this doesn't happen again. I was never happy about using a windows box as a router anyway.

btw, the hosts file on the gateway was the main culprit..
 

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I have been very pleased with running a hardware firewall router.
 

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I have been very pleased with running a hardware firewall router.
Agreed, that's I how I setup the office... At home, I have a roomate that used to be a windows network admin - he was very gung ho about setting up our network (at home), so I let him. That's the last time I let an MSIE take charge. They always seem to take the overly complicated MS route. ;)
 

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Love this-

well ,whenever i typ an url in internet explorer ,i arrive at that thing to install that xxxtoolbar ,and sometimes another pornographic website (i dont know how it got there ,honestly ,i dont really visit those websites (hjust take my word))
Uh huh....sure.....
 

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BrianK said:
Agreed, that's I how I setup the office... At home, I have a roomate that used to be a windows network admin - he was very gung ho about setting up our network (at home), so I let him. That's the last time I let an MSIE take charge. They always seem to take the overly complicated MS route. ;)
Hey, I am offended. I'm a consultant with an MCSE. I have a hardware firewall--small, quiet, easily manageable, no moving parts. Maybe because he was an admin and not a consultant, it was in his best interests to make things complicated: job security.
 

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Ha, that's pretty funny. Spend $2k for the machine
Not really up to date on Apple hardware prices, eh?

I do really wish fewer people used Windows. It would cut down on the hourly "September 2003 Cumulative Patch" virus mailings I receive.
 

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Not really up to date on Apple hardware prices, eh?
Bottom end single processor G5 is $1999 w/o a display. A 17" iMac is $1799.

I do really wish fewer people used Windows. It would cut down on the hourly "September 2003 Cumulative Patch" virus mailings I receive.
If OS X, or Linux, or whatever, was more popular, it would be the target. If you were a hacker, wouldn't you attack the majority?

I actually like Macs. I just think they are overpriced, and they have to be since Apple is the only hardware maker. Peripherals are overpriced, too. I feel Mac users often get screwed. I was just at CompUSA's site, and I saw this:
ATI Radeon 8500 "Mac Edition": $300
Same card for PC, but the 8500DV model (includes a stereo TV tuner, RF remote, TiVo-like recording, Gemstar TV guide, Firewire ports, digital audio output): $180
And the 8500 is an outdated model!

I will pay a premium for a low volume product, like say, an Elise :), but to me, a computer is just a tool--nothing to be fanatical about.
 

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Dan said:
Spend $2k for the machine and >2x for any Mac-specific peripherals--my brother complains to me all the time about the costs. If you want to avoid Windows, just get one of the many free variants of UNIX. Apple's OS X is based on BSD UNIX, anyway.
Aw, it's not that bad. I havn't had to buy ANY Mac-specific peripherals as all my old USB hardware works fine. If you mean expansion cards, then yes, that's a bummer...you can't upgrade Macs like you can PCs.

As for going with a free Unix, I did that for over a year (Mandrake Linux). I found the overhead just took too much of my time (specifically, trying to get my Linux setup to approach the functionality of my Windows computer). OS X gave me the best of both worlds!

Macs start at $1k (eMac).
 

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Macs start at $1k (eMac).
not to start a mac -vs- pc thread, but each of the nodes in my renderfarm are $768 -- P4 2.6 GHz w/ 800 MHz FSB, 1GB Dual Channel PC3200 RAM, 20GB 7200 rpm HD, MSI motherbard, 2U rackmount case, Firewire, USB 2.0, Gigabit ethernet, partridge, pear tree. ... and they all run Linux, so the OS is free.

For $200 more, I could have put in *really nice* graphics cards and good sized SATA HDs to make them workstations.

Can't beat price/performance of PC parts. ;)
 

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Sure, PCs are cheaper, and will be as long as PCs are a commodity item and Macs are proprietary. I just didn't agree with the claim that you have to spend $2000 to get a Mac.

If the situation were different and MacOS or Linux were the dominant desktop OS, then they would indeed be targets for viruses and hacks. In fact, I remember about 6 years ago there were groups of hackers using a well-known security hole in RedHat Linux to crack large numbers of systems. However, in the current situation you have to admit that Macs and Linux machines do not suffer nearly as much as Windows machines, if for no other reason than that they are not as prevalent.

I happen to think that it's also partly because Windows is not as secure. I am horrified at all of the network services that XP boxes offer by default, and can't imagine why I would want to offer some of those services, let alone a typical home user. For instance, why does XP offer the RPC service by default (this is the service with the bug that allowed the Blaster worm to enter the computer). And the Messenger service (not to be confused with MSN Messenger)? Why do I need a service that allows arbitrary people on the internet to pop up windows on my screen? A sane OS will have most services turned off by default, so that you can turn them on if you want them but don't have them sucking CPU cycles and memory and offering potential security holes.
 
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