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I really don't have anything bad to say about the C6 Vette. Not only is it quite the looker, but it took everything we could throw at it and more. Gone are the brakes that overheat, gone is the quirky steering feedback, gone is the brutal ride over uneven pavement segments. I know the C6 is supposed to be an updated C5 as opposed to "all new", but you could have fooled those of use driving it. We drove it back to back with C5's and C5 Z06's and there was no contest, hands-down the base C6 was the best car of the bunch.

Considering it is the same price as the Elise, but you can get it serviced at any Chevy dealer, get good lease deals, and make runs to the store in it for miscellaneous, etc. the C6 may just make me re-think the Elise for both track and off-track duties.
 

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Considering it is the same price as the Elise, but you can get it serviced at any Chevy dealer, get good lease deals, and make runs to the store in it for miscellaneous, etc. the C6 may just make me re-think the Elise for both track and off-track duties.
I was under the impression that it was going to be a bit more expensive? It is a great car for sure! I would love to have a test drive.
 

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Yes but it won't feel the same. In my Europa, changing tire pressure by one PSI is very noticeable. From outside the car you can grab a front tire and steer it, watching the steering wheel spin in the car! The agility and responsiveness and feel are part of the Lotus position. Not just "magazine racing" stuff. My impression of C5 ZO6 ride quality was that is was pretty civilized and quiet just cruising around. No buckboard ride or whatever. I'm sure that the Vette is more mainstream than the Elise. It might be a better choice for many people. I think that a percentage of Elises won't wind up with the right kind of owner at first. It might be the toughest ingress/egress vehicle around. And if it has a few minor niggles this wouldn't surprise or annoy me at all.

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The C6 will definately appeal to a 996 owner. Similar performance levels with a comfortable ride and day to day useability. The Elise will provide a totally different driving experience. Apples and oranges to me.

Reserve your final call until you demo the Elise.
 

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Is the C6 already in showrooms?
 

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Not really a fair comparo, the vette is more of a GT car, it's big, heavy with lots of hp to make up for the diff. but the fact that you can service it at any Chevy dealer is certainly nice (although I wouldn't go near the service dept. of the Chevy dealer in this town).

At the end of the day, it's up to personal choice whether some factors outweigh the others. I'd really lusted after a 350Z, just love the way the car looks (I know not a great performer but still). Having the opportunity to drive the yota powered elise, I"m so glad I stuck it out these 2.5 years now. Don't even given a second thought to any other car.

ALthough admittedly I certainly lusted after the Lambo Gallardo on the dealers floor this past week, but I didn't have an extra $140K to get it, so SETTLED for the elise.

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Cannot wait till May 05 ! ! !

I pulled out of Smith Volvo's wait list (#43)
once I put in the order, the dealer estimated that the delivery will not be until May '05... I can't wait that long.

Looking to get a SLK350 now... Since, I intend to drive the roadster everyday.
A Smythe Benz car salesman said to come in and put in my order. Estimated delivery Nov '04.
 

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Allan Gibbs:

No the C6 is not yet available but dealers are taking orders and the pricing is out (it's been leaked out on the internet forums).

The base C6 is priced at $43,445 plus destination charge of $800(manual and automatic are the same price). Fully loaded with heads-up-display, side air bags, power seats, heated seats, Z51 performance handling package, etc., the car comes in right at $50k. Not too shabby for a car that will do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 12.5 according to Chevy.

Still a different car than the Elise but you can store the targa top in the trunk :D
 

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i would like to personally encourage a few hundred elise place holders to drop off the lists and get out there for a corvette. NOW please.
 

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As much as Chevy has tried to address the faults of the C5, they overlooked the steering wheel. I'd hate to have to look at that everyday. Yes, the Tupperware interior and steering wheel have improved, but that isn't saying much.

Why can't Chevy put a proper 3-spoke steering wheel in the Corvette? Are there other modern sports cars that don't have a 3-spoke wheel? Ferrari, Lamboghini, Porsche, BMW, the Viper, the RX-8, the Miata, the S2000, the WRX, the Evo, the Z... hell, even its GM cousin Solstice has one! Why does the Vette have to have basically the same steering wheel design as the Malibu??? :rolleyes:
 

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I have to ask the question.

If someone is considering a Corvette do they really "get" the Elise?

I think not...
 

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Patricko said:
I have to ask the question.

If someone is considering a Corvette do they really "get" the Elise?

I think not...
Patrick,

I have owned many very different kinds of cars, including a Lotus, and will own others in the future. They all had their endearing qualities and shortcomings. I get the Elise very well. I also get my wife's minivan very well. They're very obviously not comparable, but they're both great at what they do.

I would consider many alternatives to the Elise. Not because they are better than the Elise at what the Elise does best. I would consider them because they stand out in some way and are fun .

I have a friend who has a whole collection of Porsches, along with 750 Bimmer, a Rolls Royce Corniche and a VW van. He likes them all.

I'm going to stick it out for the Elise, but I could always go for a C6 Vette, an SLK350, or whatever might come down the road. It doesn't mean I don't get the Elise. I'm just multi-facted. :D
 

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Patrick,

I have owned many very different kinds of cars, including a Lotus, and will own others in the future. They all had their endearing qualities and shortcomings. I get the Elise very well. I also get my wife's minivan very well. They're very obviously not comparable, but they're both great at what they do.

I would consider many alternatives to the Elise. Not because they are better than the Elise at what the Elise does best. I would consider them because they stand out in some way and are fun .

I have a friend who has a whole collection of Porsches, along with 750 Bimmer, a Rolls Royce Corniche and a VW van. He likes them all.

I'm going to stick it out for the Elise, but I could always go for a C6 Vette, an SLK350, or whatever might come down the road. It doesn't mean I don't get the Elise. I'm just multi-facted. :D
:clap: I agree. I also get the Elise, but would love to have a C6.
 

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ChrisB said:
Patrick,

I have owned many very different kinds of cars, including a Lotus, and will own others in the future. They all had their endearing qualities and shortcomings. I get the Elise very well. I also get my wife's minivan very well. They're very obviously not comparable, but they're both great at what they do....

I'm going to stick it out for the Elise, but I could always go for a C6 Vette, an SLK350, or whatever might come down the road. It doesn't mean I don't get the Elise. I'm just multi-facted. :D
Obviously most of us have daily drivers and people movers that we use as tools. When I say "considering the Corvette" I mean thinking of buying one instead of the Elise. It is as if they are thinking that the Corvette and the Elise are very similar cars and it is a coin flip as to which one they buy.

The Elise is a very unique car and the Corvette may be a very nice car but it is not comparable to an Elise.
 

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Patricko said:
I have to ask the question.

If someone is considering a Corvette do they really "get" the Elise?

I think not...
Or if they're considering a lobster dinner, do they really "get" the filet mignon?

I think it's ok to love both. Understanding the appeal of the Elise doesn't necessarily automatically negate purchasing a C6 for its appeal. Every single car choice is a study in compromises. Heck, what if Lotus designed an Elise with 450hp with the same current weight? Would getting that (with the arguably greater emphasis on straightline performance over handling) mean you don't understand the 190hp model? :)
 

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Or if they're considering a lobster dinner, do they really "get" the filet mignon?


what if Lotus designed an Elise with 450hp with the same current weight? Would getting that (with the arguably greater emphasis on straightline performance over handling) mean you don't understand the 190hp model? :)
I don't think your food analogy applies, a car purchase is a bit longer term than what to have for dinner. I think this may be closer. Some people like pretty girls that are full figured and some like pretty girls with more of an athletic build:) they are different but both pretty.

To each his own

My point is that we that "get" it believe that the Elise is the girl for us:)

An Elise is an Elise...they are all great:D
 

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I cannot understand why some of you are so snobbish about the Elise. I love the car, and hope to own one very soon. I don't understand why, however, you feel the need to make someone feel like they are less of an enthusiast if they buy the C6. I am torn between the Elise, the C6, and a hardly used NSX-T in the same price range.

I know the pros and cons of each car, and when I do make my decision, I will do so after driving each car. I will "get" all three, but I can only get one of them.
 

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Patricko - I'm with you - they don't get it - and pretty soon I'll see 1-2 C-6 everyday driving to work - it's slightly more exotic than a Camry on our highways. NO THANKS
 

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I think it's got a lot to do with perception. It's not that I'm being a snob about the elise, it's just that no other four wheeled vehicle could have tempted me away from sportbikes like the elise has.

The other is the negative perception right or wrong that the average vette driver is middle-aged (I am too by the way) is heavy into gold chains and wishes he could afford a Porsche. Before you flame, it's not speaking it's just what a lot of people say.

For me, I figure whatever floats your boat, for me that'd be E-L-I-S-E.

Chris
 
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