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Drove the FOD demo and came home with a stage II exhaust (pics)

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After hearing a stock Elise at the track, I knew I wanted to upgrade the exhaust. Well, Ferrari of Denver finally received a demo and promptly installed a stage II exhaust on the car. I took the car out for a test drive and loved the sound. The true test, however, was the wife. She drove the car and thought it sounded like a sports car should. I don't have any sound clips, but there are a few floating around the board which is a pretty fair representation.

At idle, it's very unobtrusive. You really can't tell it creates additional noise. A blip of the throttle and deep growl is emitted. I wouldn't say it was deep like a male lion, more like a leopard or a cat not as big. It certainly isn't rice. It's also not as deep as the APR on my TT. Unlike the TT, there is no boomyness or resonance under engine braking or throttle lift.

Under power, the note is strong and authoritative without being obnoxious. Late night drives in quite neighborhoods might require short shifting to keep the noise down a bit. I guess it just depends on how well you like your neighbors.

As one accelerates through the gears, there is a slight gurgle and muffled backfire at throttle lift between shifts. It actually sounds very cool and menacing. Rev-matched down shift are also musical. There is excellent aural feedback and, like I mentioned, it sounds very wicked.

All-in-all, I think the sound of the exhaust fits nicely with the car. It doesn't sound out of place or strange. It's not so loud that people can hear you coming for blocks, but when you pass them, there will be no doubt.

I put the exhaust on my postal scale and it came in at 18lbs 4oz.

Now all I need is my car so I can get this thing installed.

Exhaust in the trunk of my TT





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OneFastLotus said:
do the dealers have a template to cut the diffuser? I dont want my diffuser getting farked up looking.
Here you go:D

I just uploaded the hires version to the members gallery.

I am not sure that the upload worked...PM me if you want me to e-mail them to you.

Patrick

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The Stage 2 Lotus exhaust comes with a template with stock and revised life size hole perimeters. So it's easy to line it up and mark the diffuser with the new perimeter to be produced.
shay2nak said:
cool!

So where is Canyon Carver with the pics of his GG demo?
I think that's a sore subject- at last check in, they had'nt received it yet. Alan at Roadfly is getting his GG/red touring tomorrow and will be posting a shedload of pics.
pianomaniac said:
Stage 2 exhaust: $622.27

Thats not too bad. Why are people telling me that the part cost $800, plus install??:confused:

Mitch
hermanslotus said:
Thats not too bad. Why are people telling me that the part cost $800, plus install??:confused:

Mitch
The dealer can probably sell accessories for whatever price they feel is fair.
hermanslotus said:
Thats not too bad. Why are people telling me that the part cost $800, plus install??:confused:

Mitch
Sounds to me like dealer prices vary a bit. Perhaps I should order mine quickly before the parts dept changes their mind.
Vantage said:
The dealer can probably sell accessories for whatever price they feel is fair.

So your telling me that one dealer can sell the factory Lotus parts for one price and another can sell them for a higher price????

I don't know about you guys, but according to me and Borat something smells like a S#*& in here :eek:

Hey way to go Lotus:huh:

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hermanslotus said:
So your telling me that one dealer can sell the factory Lotus parts for one price and another can sell them for a higher price????

I don't know about you guys, but according to me and Borat something smells like a S#*& in here :eek:

Hey way to go Lotus:huh:
Anyone can sell anything they like for whatever price they choose. Lotus has no say. Otherwise,the Feds call it "price fixing". :no:
pianomaniac said:
Anyone can sell anything they like for whatever price they choose. Lotus has no say. Otherwise,the Feds call it "price fixing". :no:
Haven't really found that to be true at BMW dealers. You give them a part # for say a factory water pump. The price for that water pump is pretty much the same price give or take a few dollars if you buy it on the east coast or west coast.


Were talking here about a $200 price difference from one dealer to another. Doesn't that sound extreme??? It does to me.

Mitch
hermanslotus said:
Haven't really found that to be true at BMW dealers. You give them a part # for say a factory water pump. The price for that water pump is pretty much the same price give or take a few dollars if you buy it on the east coast or west coast.


Were talking here about a $200 price difference from one dealer to another. Doesn't that sound extreme??? It does to me.

Mitch
It is extreme! It may change in time. Right now,it's called "Price gouging". No law against that I guess.
pianomaniac said:
It is extreme! It may change in time. Right now,it's called "Price gouging". No law against that I guess.
Yes I know there is no law against this and in a free society like ours one does have the right to get Ripped Off. I will try and not let that happen to me. I don't know about the rest of you, but I would avoid any dealer that practices this.

Best Wishes,
Mitch
Perhaps the high price is due to the exchange rates with the US dollar. (joke, might not be funny) Does anyone know how labor intensive installing the stage II exhaust is? Also, Im assuming stage I exhaust is the stock one?
I plan to do some more investigating into this. If Lotus has an official price sheet, I would love to take a look at it.

FOD has been very, very good to me and I'm sure if there was a mistake or discrepancy they will make it right. They are a new dealer and still learning the Lotus methodology. I simply can't go to them and state a couple of guys on the internet said the price should be closer to $600.
DetailersParadise said:
I plan to do some more investigating into this. If Lotus has an official price sheet, I would love to take a look at it.

FOD has been very, very good to me and I'm sure if there was a mistake or discrepancy they will make it right. They are a new dealer and still learning the Lotus methodology. I simply can't go to them and state a couple of guys on the internet said the price should be closer to $600.
No you can't. I called my dealer this morning and they quoted me exactly $622.27 for Stage 2 and $ 456.33 for Stage 1. You might want to call several dealers and get quotes.. It may prove interesting!
It's, unfortunately, normal.

I usually buy my Honda parts mail order from a dealer in Rhode Island - they are usually about 25% under list. Or I could go to the nearest dealer, and pay about 15% over list. The other dealer in the area only charges about 10% over list.

With Miatas, I can go to the local dealer and get gouged, or call up a dealer "down south" and mail order for less than list price.

Even with mail orders, the parts are usually here in 2-3 days, and if I go to the dealer, something is always "special order" and takes 1-4 days. Guess how I buy my parts?

Now, I wonder which Lotus dealer is going to be selling at the lowest price and doing mail order?;)
Even with mail orders, the parts are usually here in 2-3 days, and if I go to the dealer, something is always "special order" and takes 1-4 days. Guess how I buy my parts?
Plus no sales tax from mail order. Both dealers that you mentioned are both probably drop ship from the manufacturer warehouse. In short, call all the dealers using the toll-free phone numbers and simply buy from the cheapest one.
agent.5 said:
Plus no sales tax from mail order. Both dealers that you mentioned are both probably drop ship from the manufacturer warehouse. In short, call all the dealers using the toll-free phone numbers and simply buy from the cheapest one.
I believe you are absolutely correct. They don't have the exhaust in stock and said it would probably take about 3 days,although they didn't really know since they haven't yet ordered parts from Lotus.
I wonder if the price discrepency has to do with installation and the way Lotus prices the product. Different dealers interpret the price sheet differently.

One scenario could be the exhaust is a $622 retail item, but is considered dealer install only. That would run the price up to around $800. One dealer reads the price sheet as $622 plus install and the other $800 installed. That doesn't explain why I have an $800 exhaust decorating my backyard, but as we have all discovered, nothing about this love affair is textbook.
DetailersParadise said:
I wonder if the price discrepency has to do with installation and the way Lotus prices the product. Different dealers interpret the price sheet differently.

One scenario could be the exhaust is a $622 retail item, but is considered dealer install only. That would run the price up to around $800. One dealer reads the price sheet as $622 plus install and the other $800 installed. That doesn't explain why I have an $800 exhaust decorating my backyard, but as we have all discovered, nothing about this love affair is textbook.
But quite a handsome backyard decoration at any price. Wait till some of those beverly Hills folks see your pictures.
maybe they'll get some class!
_JD_ said:
I think that's a sore subject- at last check in, they had'nt received it yet. Alan at Roadfly is getting his GG/red touring tomorrow and will be posting a shedload of pics.
Excellent!

But doesn't Canyon Carver work at FOD? Detailers Paradise said he just drove their demo. :confused:
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