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The rear arches have been widened about 3.5" to fit a 12.5" tire i.e. 305/30/18 or 305/650/18.

The wing is Trans-Am 72" spec. The body is just a little wider.

Anton
wow, doesn't look like 3.5"! Good job making the clam look stock. Even an extra 1" wider rear arch would be great! I barely have fit a 255/40-17 under there.
 

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wow, doesn't look like 3.5"! Good job making the clam look stock. Even an extra 1" wider rear arch would be great! I barely have fit a 255/40-17 under there.
Shay2nak,
What size wheels/tires do you have? I have about 295whp, but
can't always take advantage of it due to stock tire sizes (195, 225).
-Robert
 

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Car finally on the ground!

The front flares are not done yet.

335's hiding under the rear fenders.

Why is the car so light in the front? Instead of steering it out of this section of the shop, we just dragged the front across the floor. This did not take any effort.

Any comments on rear wing and mount. All constructive comments are appreciated :)

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Any comments on rear wing and mount. All constructive comments are appreciated :)

Anton
First I have to say what an amazing job you have done on this vehicle, it looks incredible. I love the wider body front and rear, and I love the way the S1 front end looks on the S2 rear end modified as it has been done so.

However the one place that you completely lose my interest is when I see that wing...I personally asthetically could say that the wing makes the entire car look like a toy box car. Only because of how high up it is.

However keeping in mind at how much power you are going to be running, and how much of a necessity you will need to have downforce, if that is the best place you can run the wing...then asthetics go out the window. However, if you can still get the same performance and lower the location of the wing, then I would HIGHLY encourage the relocation of the wing. :)

Thanks for the beautiful shots of the car, can't wait to see what the final product will look like. :coolnana: :popcorn:
 

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if that is the best place you can run the wing...then asthetics go out the window. However, if you can still get the same performance and lower the location of the wing, then I would HIGHLY encourage the relocation of the wing. :)
It need to be high, but it looks like it's about a foot and a half too far forward.

 

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re: Wing

The wing mounting is usually subject to regulations.

Most race cars have wing mounted below roof line as per most race classes.
The best place is to mount high in clean air like old Can-Am cars when there were no regulations.

Putting the wing back creates more leverage, thus multiplying the downforce.

Mu current mount is just a starting point. the mount is just 2 aluminum plates. They can be cut and welded to push the wing back or down. I agree it looks out of place. All comments are therefore welcome.

Sorry, for not posting more pics. Working on engine and waiting for dry sump, so not really much to see. Just started front flares, so should have more pics.

Once the dry sump comes, we will start the car!

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Putting the wing back creates more leverage, thus multiplying the downforce.

Mu current mount is just a starting point. the mount is just 2 aluminum plates. They can be cut and welded to push the wing back or down. I agree it looks out of place.
I have been on the wing debate in my own mind for my own personal car, and have decided that not putting a wing on at all is the direction I plan on going. Because I really don't like any of the wings I have seen for Elises, except for the supercharged factory version. The only problem is that I don't know if it actually has any benefits to it, or if it is just completely asthetic.

However you are racing with this car, FAR more than I will. So keeping that in mind, personally I feel lowering the wing to the height of the roof line of the car, and then bringing it back past the rear end of the car so that it "Hangs off" of the car I believe would give it an amazingly cool look. Since it will be in line with the rest of the body lines, and still hopefully highly functional based on what you said creates a "leverage" point.
 

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car looks awesome love the rear tires...coming from my point of view however..i would love to make my exige look as awesome and more agressive but i plan to drive the car on the road as well therefore the wing might be over the top for me. would there be a way for me to enjoy an awesome body kit without being over the top with the wing?
although i agree, when on the track more downforce is better, but ofcourse it should be possible to have an adjustable wing where it can be over the top when needed
 

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re: Wing

The wing is separate from the rear clam.

I believe, that the tail built into the clam with a Gourney flap would provide significant downforce on the street.

This particular wing mounts to the rear sub-frame. The attack angle of the wing itself is adjustable.

The mounts themselves can be easily re-fabricated to re-locate the wing, as well. The angle adjustment can be performed at the track. Therefore, I may still move the wing around.

The wing itself was a CF piece I had already. It is actually Trans-Am spec 72" single element wing. So it works very well. it is not a cosmetic piece. This is why it is mounted to the sub-frame, leaving it on top of CF clam would probably break the clam at high speed.

I will take a pic from the back, sometime soon.

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What pedal setup is that? Can't tell from pic?

Also, did you add some additional support for the pedal mounts? The stock floor panels are way too thin to support pedals.

Everyone seems to stick with the stock center shift/parking brace ... I gotta build something to do away with that flimsy pile of pooh.

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These are Tilton pedals. Hanging pedals looked too hard, so put an aluminum plate on the floor. The pedal mounting bolts + a few more go through the floor. Plate buts up against back and front extrusions.

I am waiting for someone to improve the shifter :)

I removed the parking brake.

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These are Tilton pedals. Hanging pedals looked too hard, so put an aluminum plate on the floor. The pedal mounting bolts + a few more go through the floor. Plate buts up against back and front extrusions.

I am waiting for someone to improve the shifter :)

I removed the parking brake.

Anton
I have some ideas on the shifter and will be experimenting with some solutions.

Are you running the throttle cable down the center and out thru the shifter/parking brake hole?

Pilbeam have a pedal unit (top mount), costs more than the Tilton and is not adjustable: Pilbeam Racing Designs .. Innovation + Excellence = The Winning Formula -- but is an easier install.

Rob.
 

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re: Pedals

Pilbeam says that there is a balance bar, but it does not have a remote adjuster. Seems like a good piece of kit. I am just used to Tilton...

Yes, I am running the throttle cable through the sifter/parking hole. I got push/pull cable. It is safer but a bit of a pain to install.

Anton

I have some ideas on the shifter and will be experimenting with some solutions.

Are you running the throttle cable down the center and out thru the shifter/parking brake hole?

Pilbeam have a pedal unit (top mount), costs more than the Tilton and is not adjustable: Pilbeam Racing Designs .. Innovation + Excellence = The Winning Formula -- but is an easier install.

Rob.
 
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