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first off I would put the bird seed in metal garbage cans so the little buggers can't get to it in the first place,then...SNAP use a mouse trap, they are humane and quick ,and will solve the problem once and for all.I know you don't want to kill them but it's them or the elise. JMO FWIW:(
 

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You can evict them by using an ultrasonic pest thingamajig. My old house had a five car heated garage and I used several such devices. They make loud sound up above where humans can hear. But the pests can hear the sound and choose to move out. Day one, put it in the Lotus interior after removing car interior and garage seeds/food. The device also makes birds, raccoons, cats and dogs want to stay out of the place. A raccoon under the dash would be a real pain!!
 

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Jen, I just had a thought. With fall/moist weathers, some of the seeds might sprout and worm their way into smaller crevices, they wont get far with lack of light wither and die and crumble into dust thus being easier to clean. I don't know if this will happen but it certainly is plausible, albeit longterm.
 

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Jenn,
I just ordered one of these ultrasonic devices, park it in your garage with the door open it might do the trick.

I researched (it's designed mainly for cats which is why I got it) it seems to work according to the articles.

Don't want the neighborhood cat chowing down on our small population of chipmunks.

It's got a motion detector that triggers ultrasonic sound burst.

http://www.scatmat.com/Products/CatStop/overview.asp

Chris
 

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This totally reminds me of the time I took my BMW M3 camping in Lassen Volcanic National Park, and left the car unattended (under a cover) at a trailhead for a few days.

When returning to the vehicle after our trip, I thought the wheels had some funny scratch marks (really just more like the brake dust had been scratched away in a weird pattern). I thought maybe it was pine needles that had gotten blown up against the wheels of the car.

I didn't think anything much more of it, except then I went to take the car cover off, and noticed a big chunk of it was missing!!

That was really weird. I thought maybe it got ripped somehow when I didn't notice, or after many years of outdoor use, the material had rotted away.

Anyway, long story short, I open the trunk and there is a mouse building a nest out of the chewed up pieces of car cover (also a shop towel I had in the trunk for checking oil). Arghh!! And then he runs down behind the trunk carpet somewhere into the shock tower. I wait patiently to see if he exits the vehicle (and wondering how he could!!) but never see him.

I drive the car around the parking lot with the trunk open, hoping to scare him out of the car. I try this for about a half an hour or forty five minutes. A gentleman with his dog came over to help... his dog seems quite excited by the trunk, and the owner seems to think the mouse is still in there.

I had been rear-ended a year before, so now I am thinking the body shop somehow left some entrance for critters... perfect!! I keep searching for the mouse, pulling everything out of the trunk including the carpeting. No mouse. Not good.

So, I figure there's not much else to do, and I pack the car full of gear and prepare to drive 5 hours through the California central valley in July. It is not uncommon for it to be 105+ degrees out at that time of year. I am horrified for my own sake that this poor mouse will get baked alive deep within the bowels of the unibody (and then begin to decay, with me having no way to extract him).

So, in my frustration, I begin the 45-minute drive across Lassen Volcanic National Park taking corners as quickly and abruptly as I can, braking hard and suddenly, trying to convince the mouse he really doesn't want to live in my M3.

I get to the exit of the park and make a pit stop on the side of the road. I am sitting in the driver's seat for maybe 60 seconds when I swear to God I see the fastest mouse I have ever seen, run out from underneath the car, zig-zag across the street, and run like hell away from my car.

Mice can be very destructive, and as we both learned they don't just inhabit old junkers that never get driven, but also nice, newer cars that we care about. All they need is a way in. I wouldn't be surprised if there are ways for a mouse to get into a car made out of extrusions... there have to be little openings everywhere.

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We looked into the situation this evening and discovered it wasnt as bad as it seemed. The mouse was using the aluminum tray to store seeds. The cupped aluminum tray runs the length of the dash.
The tray also runs under the steering column and we were worried about that area due to the wires etc. We took it apart and there wasnt much seed left under that area at all AND all the wires and some sponge material in the area were all intact, not one chew mark. :clap:

FWIW the aluminum tray is solid for the length of the dash BUT there are two small holes in it just underneath the steering column that you cant see unless you're crawling underneath there. Thats where the seed was pouring out from.

The sound of seed going from side to side was the seed rolling in the tray from under my steering column down towards the heater controls and back again like a ship at sea.

So, all is well now and all seed is gone.

Im going to try one of those ultra sonic devices or a have a heart trap and go from there.

At least the mouse has good taste. :)
 

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Dog food, seed should not be stored in the garage.
I've had very expensive cars come in on the hook from the owner's garage with mice nests, alpo completely clogging the air filter, and munched wiring looms.
I've found the pet python under the hood of one car... and i'm thinking, this is winter in the midwest for pete's sake.

Of course, he might be a mousey from Blighty.:p
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Saw your hubby with your new CO baby yesterday at the AutoX at Papa John's Stadium in Louisville - what a nice guy! How'd you snag him?

Anyway, you still have the mouse problem - seed all over the inside of your beautiful car - kinda ruins the "exoticocity" of a Lotus I'd say - but the seed thing fits KY very well. Maybe next year you could use the car as a planter in the front yard and grow corn out of the boot? LOL :D

Re: the AutoX - I think Crash Test Dummy might have had the best time of the day or was VERY close. He beat a new Porsche 911 Turbo on every run and all of the Corvettes and I'm pretty sure he beat all of the open wheel Cmods (4 of them ran). We stayed for all but the last couple of cars but saw all of George's 4 runs - quite a driver and quite a car. You would have been proud of him. You know, he takes riders on almost every run which must have some effect on his time but he's so happy to help and teach that his finish position isn't that important to him. That's what life is all about in my book. You're a lucky person. Sorry Cheryl and I missed meeting you Sunday.
 

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Thanks Cerven, sorry I wasnt able to come out. It was a bad day for me. I wasn't sure you were coming! Also Im sorry it was such a crappy overcast day, the CO doesnt look as good in the overcast.


We'll have the yellow car tomorrow, and hopefully you'll have yours soon too and we can all have a "Yee Haw Kentucky" elise meet. There's a guy in Lexington who has a blue one now.
 

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Being a reptile/amphibian nerd when I was younger, I responded to at least a few people's calls for help getting their snakes, lizards, etc... out from under their dash.

The heat from the engine is what would attract them to get stuck in those places, especially during a midwest winter. They'd usually end up coming out when the engine got cool. If all else fails in this situation, put a heat lamp in the car pointed at the floor or the seat, and they will come to that spot seeking warmth when there is no more to be had near the engine.
 

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I found out I had a mouse living in my Elise.


I had the air conditioner service bulletin done on my car today, and when the tech removed the cover, the mouse took off. :eek: He had made a nest under the passenger side cover 0 but it doesn't look like he did any damage. Tomorrow I get to pull the covers and wheel liners and check/clean things out. The
Decon and mouse traps are going in the garage to.:thwack:

I had them a couple of months ago in my back yard tool shed living under my lawn mower. I got them out of there, but apparently instead of moving off into the woods, they moved up to the house...
 

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TimMullen said:
I had them a couple of months ago in my back yard tool shed living under my lawn mower. I got them out of there, but apparently instead of moving off into the woods, they moved up to the house...
If I had mice under my lawnmower, I don't think moving them to the woods would have been my first choice for disposal. :D
 

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Dyson is cool but I dont like bagless vacs :)
(Sidebar-- I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I couldn't let the Dyson comment go. I also do not like most bagless vacs, except the Dyson. I purchased a Dyson vac last year and I am still amazed by it. It is the best vacuum I've ever seen or used. Having a dog that sheds a lot means that I've gone thru a few different kinds of vacuums, and I LOVE my Dyson!)
 

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To continue the threadjack...

My wife and I have been considering a Dyson because our home is full of cat hair. I'll pass along your positive review.
 

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My wife and I have been considering a Dyson because our home is full of cat hair.
Which explains why you didn't mention having mice!! :D
 

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We got the first cat because of a mouse problem in my last house. If she ever found a mouse I'm sure she would have run from it and hid in a corner crying...
The second cat found me. Poor guy was starving to death in the street. I'm surprised he lived, and now he's HUGE. Built like a tank. I'm convinced he lifts weights or something while we're away.
 

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doma, that got me thinking. I wonder how they go into my passenger compartment? I did leave one window down a crack.. I wonder if they came in through the window OR got up into the car from the underside somehow. :eek:
Almost certainly from underneath. Probably climbing up a wheel or perhaps jumping into the front grill. I don't think it would any problem for an ordinary mouse to squeeze along a radiator hose/pipe or wiring harness to get to almost anywhere in the car.
Mothballs should be quite effecting in discouraging mice, but then you yourself have to cope with the smell. Or maybe you should just give your cats access to the garage. Is it attached to your house?
 

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NMRJock said:
My wife and I have been considering a Dyson because our home is full of cat hair. I'll pass along your positive review.
A friend of mine from B-school whose opinion I value highly just bought a Dyson. She quite likes it. She said she was convinced to buy it when she overheard a woman in the store saying to a friend, "My Dyson changed my life!"
 
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