Oh no! Here we go again! Please don't bring this up anymore! Enough of us have been tramatized! My shrink said I may never be able to function as a normal human in society ever again! Getting flashbacks!! AHHHHHHH!!Originally posted by Johnny B
Oh damn, the seats are giving you a noticable "toe" and your gut is hanging out.
This is BS. The seats are the same max dimensions. The new seats however do have a s quare corner in section, whereas the old ones were round, and so may have appeared narrower.gotapex said:My main concern is the width of the seats. I wish they stuck with the narrower European ones.
He's relatively thin, but broad shouldered - 36" waist.transio said:Robert,
6'4, 200# isn't that big. It's tall, but skinny. I can't imagine he's got such problems with the seat width! What size waist does he have?
I'm 6'3, 220#, and I'm not overly-concerned about the squeeze.
I imagine there's some guy who's 5'9, 250# who's gonna try it out and be turned off by the size of the seats, though.
hermanslotus said:Yes it ture the seat backs are not adjustable.
Based on some of the responses I've just read. Most of you have not driven an Elise on a Long trip. I have driven a standard S2 with the old Rover motor while on a visit to Australia last year. All I can say is that after being behind the wheel for over 3 hours with no adjustability at all, my back and body needed a ciropractor.
Trust me, I am a little concerned about what a 16 hour drive will feel like. When I travel to Kansas to race, I like to make it in 1.5 days.hermanslotus said:Randy,
Drive the Elise for 3 to 4 hours strait and then tell me what you think???
a substantial fraction of my 96k in the spyder has been on drives of 4 to 12 hours. i find that after about 6 or 8 i wish the drive was over. i too though never adjust the angle of the seat back. nor do i slide it forward or aft. once it is set that's it. i would, however, appreciate some kind of adjustable lumbar support. maybe some lumber support too when both the car and the passenger are tople...oh wait...that's another storyRandy Chase said:Trust me, I am a little concerned about what a 16 hour drive will feel like. When I travel to Kansas to race, I like to make it in 1.5 days.
Worried also about no cruise for 16 hours.
Interesting, I didn't know that. Everything I had heard said the European ones were slimmer (including the Lotus people there at the LA auto show). I positively slosh around in the US model seats.Robert Puertas said:This is BS. The seats are the same max dimensions. The new seats however do have a s quare corner in section, whereas the old ones were round, and so may have appeared narrower.
The irony of this is that bigger people fit better in the old rounder seats.
My friend Dave who is 6'-4" and ~200 lbs. is comfortable in the old seats but not in the new ones. He says his hips get pinched by the new ones. A problem he didn't have before...