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Patricko said:
What section has the info on taking the seats out? I can't find it :confused: Does anyone know what the seat bolts should be torqued to?
Cant find it, must be covered in the parts manual, I wished that could be downloaded too, hopefully in the next 22 hours ;)
 

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I found the RM733E & the RM929E part numbers in the european site:

http://techdoc.toyota-europe.com/find_SM.asp?&d=1&lang=En

one day access seems to be 10 euros for Toyota, 8 euros for Lexus, 16 for both.

RM733E is under the Celica documents in english
RM929E is under the Corolla engine documents in english, anyone care to explain this???

Couldn't find the transmission one and the supplement might not be the right publication.

I'm going to snoop around more before subscribing to get all my ducks in a row.
 

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ekological said:
Hmmm...I downloaded only about 12MB of PDFs for the Elise for a total of 29 files. Am I missing something? The Esprit is 42MB with 49 files.
If you download them manually I also get 41.8 MB in 49 files for the Esprit and
29 files for the Elise totaling 11.9 MB

But there are a lot of duplicate files if downloaded that way, if you use wget like Ground Loop suggested you get 35.4 MB with a total of 67 pdf files for both the elise and the esprit.
 

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Miguel said:
I found the RM733E & the RM929E part numbers in the european site:

http://techdoc.toyota-europe.com/find_SM.asp?&d=1&lang=En

one day access seems to be 10 euros for Toyota, 8 euros for Lexus, 16 for both.

RM733E is under the Celica documents in english
RM929E is under the Corolla engine documents in english, anyone care to explain this???

Couldn't find the transmission one and the supplement might not be the right publication.

I'm going to snoop around more before subscribing to get all my ducks in a row.
Didn't have time to check for the transmission manual and didn't download the files yet.

Has anyone done that? and ...

Is the RM929E really the supplement? I ask since it's under the Corolla engine documents.
 

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martinm1 said:
Can anyone help me with where to find the files to download. I paid the 24 hour fee, got the user and pw and can login, but I don't see any files at all. They talk about them, but there is no link that I can find under any of their tabs.
Thanks. I have tried with both Firefox and IE(sometimes firefox does not display all of the "buttons"
It's been a while since I went there but it was under there somewhere, you have to get to a page that says:

Welcome to the Lotus Cars TechInfo Emissions website.

Lotus Elise, North America

Lotus Esprit, 4 cylinder and V8, North America

The 1st link is where the Elise documents are at. You can find wget from the web and use the command that ground loop posted to get the whole thing, I don't know where to get wget.exe from but google will find it.

Note that on the command you have to replace the ip (xx.yy.zz.aa) and the username (your_user) and the password (your_password)

I'll be around the office for another 15 minutes or so, let me know if you need any help.

Edit: once you get to that page if you prefer to download on a per document bases go inside and right click and use the save as on the pdf files (note some are html links that lead to more pdf docs), but I'll recomend you use Ground Loop's method, much easier to do that way.
 

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Santorium said:
Hello kind American persons...

It seems that a US based paypal account is required to download the manuals from the Lotus site, and us English folk aren't allowed to have one.

Anyone feeling generous?
I used my credit card, no paypal required, but they'll only have the 111R manuals, no previous models other than the Esprit.
 

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TimMullen said:
Can you also post the links to where we can buy the Toyota Manuals? That wasn't on there when I down loaded the manuals, and I really don't want to spend another $25 just to get the link to go and buy the Toyota Manuals...
Toyota Manuals - Elise

Copies of the Toyota Service Manuals can be obtained from your Lotus dealer, quoting the appropriate part number:

Toyota Engine Repair Manual
B120T0327J $85.27
Toyota Engine Supplement
C120T0327J $42.82
Toyota Transmission Manual
D120T0327J $25.62

But read previous posts, I found some of these on the toyota europe parts site, but have not purchased them yet.

Edit: Not sure about the supplement and couldn't find the transmision manual, was going to snoop around australia to see if I could find it there.
 

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The only other car that I can find with the C64 transmission is the Australian Toyota Corolla Sportivo (has our engine too) but it's front wheel drive.

2nd Edit: site where this information comes from:
http://www.mccarrolls.com.au/toyota/showroom/passenger/corolla/sportivo/specifications

DRIVETRAIN - TOYOTA COROLLA SPORTIVO 4D Hatchback - 6 man

Driven Wheels Front
Transmission description Six speed manual
- Transmission code C64

Gear Ratios
- 1st 3.166:1
- 2nd Gear 2.050:1
- 3rd Gear 1.481:1
- 4th Gear 1.166:1
- 5th Gear 0.916:1
- 6th Gear 0.815:1
- Reverse Gear 3.250:1
- Differential ratio 4.529:1

Can't find an australian equivalent to the toyota tech docs in europe:

Edit3: fixed link
http://techdoc.toyota-europe.com/find_SM.asp?&d=1&lang=En

10 euros for Toyota, 8 euros for Lexus, 16 euros for both.

or like in the US:

http://techinfo.toyota.com/

$10 single day

The US site has none of our documents.

The European one has at least the engine one under the Celica english documents (RM733E)

The European one has another document with the same code as our engine supplement one (RM929E) but under the corolla and the description doesn't match, but the part number does????

Can't find the C64 transmission on either of them, I wonder if that transmission was not used on the US or EU markets at all?

Edit, the C64 transmission manual is part number RM930E
 

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Hopefully last post before downloading everything tomorrow.

I found all the toyota engine and transmission manuals at the european site:

http://techdoc.toyota-europe.com/find_SM.asp?&d=1&lang=En

Access for one day is 16 euros, I don't think they don't do the separate subscriptions toyota vs lexus, you can access both.

Lotus name: Elise/Exige 6 Speed Engine Manual
Lotus part: B120T0327J
Toyota name: English Repair Manual ENGINE (1999-->) vehicle id: ZZT230
Toyota part: RM733E
Toyota name: English Repair Manual ENGINE (2000-->) vehicle id: ZZT231
Toyota part: RM733E
Both links take you to the same document.
Both Available when you search for Celica/English and it will be under Repair Manual/Engine.


Lotus name: Elise/Exige 6 Speed Engine Supplement
Lotus part: C120T0327J
Toyota name: English Repair Manual ENGINE (2001-->) vehicle id: ZZE123 From Oct. 2001 production.
Toyota part: RM929E
Strange too, the description is for a Main Manual not a supplement. But it's the right manual
Available when you search for Corolla/English and it will be under Repair Manual/Engine.


Lotus name: Elise/Exige 6 Speed Transmission
Lotus part: D120T0327J
Toyota name: English Repair Manual CHASSIS + BODY (2001-->) vehicle id: ZZE123 C64 Manual Transaxle
Toyota part: RM930E
Another strange one, they didn't put the document under the transmission. But also the right manual.
Available also doing a search for Corolla/English and it will be under Repair Manual/Chassis+Body


You don't have to pay to do the searches, and 16 euros is not that much money. (around $25) Anyway tomorrow I'm going to try to create a one day account, hopefully they allow access from the US, or I'll have to use my parent's address in Spain and pay taxes I guess.
 

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The manuals are for viewing only and it's a pain to download them :(
pretty much they have to be downloaded by section one by one and there are a lot of sections.

Anyway i'm going to be very busy getting all those pages, and I'll report later.
 

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problem is that there is not an index.html but a css that links to javascript, etc...

Tried wget already, but I'm looking into other ways too.
 

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apkom said:
Hmm... Maby they changed the site lately. I had no problem with the right set of command options to mirror it (including Esprit part just in case).
wegt does not really need index.html (in fact it will generate it locally).

Have you looked at this
post for options? Use whatever strating URL you have in your browser once yuo log in.
Read my previous posts. This is not for the lotus site, this is for the european Toyota site to retreive the 2 engine documents and the transmission documents.

Anyway it's a PITA but I got them.

230 pdfs for the engine (RM733E)
29 pdfs for the engine supplement (RM929E)
16 pdfs for the C64 transmission (RM930E)

I think i even will try to get the index files for all those documents not sure how that works, but at least I have the individual files :nanner:
for 16 euros and one hour of work is not too bad.

Edit: both manual documents for the RM733E (1999 and 2000) are the same it seems, get the 2000 one just in case. I'm getting both and I'll compare.

Edit2: on the address at registration I did put UK because they didn't have an US entry, but the credit card went through because I put my real address and zip code.
 

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ChrisH said:
I didn't realize the 2ZZGE engine was available in 2000 models. I know the 2ZZFE was, but that only had variable time, not lift. Now that you have the engine manual, can you confirm that it covers the 2ZZGE? Do you think it is the latest, up-to-date 2ZZGE manual, or simply the original one from 2000 or 2001?
I'm still downloading stuff, I'll look at what I got later on. Now I got all the service data sheets for both the corolla and celica.
But I want to grab everything I can from both cars since there are references to the engine and transmision on the Corolla manuals (RM925E) and others supplementals.

Also I'm going to grab all the electrical documents, anyway it's going to take me a while. But the 3 I got 1st refer to the 2ZZGE as well as the 1ZZFE and the 3ZZFE as well as the 4ZZFE in some other documents, anyway it's the right ones but I haven't look inside the documents much because I'll be busy :sheep:
 

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I think I have more than i'll ever need.

It's not too bad to get the three documents, once you pay for access you'll have to open the browsing tree and right click to save as each pdf section.

Some are html links to a specific page, those you have to display and then save the acrobat document.

Note that on acrobat sometimes it doesn't allow you to create a directory so prepare the folders where you'll put all the documents for that manual at. ie RM733E for all the RM733E document files.

Also if you have microsoft word or any other capable document editor you can expan the manual browsing tree one by one and once they are all open you can select all (right click on that pane) then control-c to copy to the buffer and then you can paste that to word, retaining the hyperlinks.

Save the file as html and edit all the references to the web site so that they reference to your disk.

For people that don't like computers I'll recomend you buy the print ones, this was a real PITA to do.
 

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TimMullen said:
Miguel,

Have you check to make sure that the Toyota manuals are in fact the correct ones for our Elise? If so, I may have to go get them also...
Seems like the right ones, I'm posting html files of the indices so you can take a peak.

I modified the Lotus html to link to these for the engine, supplement and transmission.

I have each of these files and image support folder on their own folder, i.e.
Toyota
RM733E
RM929E
RM930E​
I also got several service and miscelaneous ones for the Celica and Corolla, didn't dowload the whole thing but anything related to the engine, transmission, intake, exhaust, ecu (even if it's different), electrical wiring, engine mount stuff, but got tired after a while because it was too much work.

I have them located under a toyota folder under the lotus service manual folder.

Toyota
SDSCelica
SDS418E
SDS438E
SDS457E
SDS466E
SDS477E​
SDSCorolla
EWD480E
EWD485E
RM925E
SDS453E
SDS455E
SDS457E
SDS466E
SDS477E​

I didn't dowload these last ones fully other than the SDS's, I tried to get as much as RM925E as I could.

Like I said before, it's a lot of work (time consuming) so better do it on a weekend or something like that, if you are just after the 3 manuals I'll say one hour will do. But if you are like me, you'll want more and more ;)

good news is that if you forget to download the indices for those three manuals you'll have them from my zip file ;)
 

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TimMullen said:
Miguel,

Have you check to make sure that the Toyota manuals are in fact the correct ones for our Elise? If so, I may have to go get them also...
Btw the only way to make sure they are the actual ones if for someone that has them to take a peak at the indices....

Michael?????

And Tim, don't forget to use UK for country since they don't offer US, my credid card went through even with the wrong country :shrug: and no VAT was added as far as I know
 

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Two quick notes Tim,

once you open the view document, you'll have to open each branch of the navigation tree on the left, right click and save as, some of them you actually have to press them and use the acrobat save icon. (electrical I believe) there is another thread where I posted what I did.

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13840

I wont be on my computer during the weekend so I hope you have good luck with the download, pm me if you want my cell # in case you get stuck.

Edit: oops I forgot the 2nd note, your login times out, you probably have to re-login for other documents, I had to do that several times.
 

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Maybe that thread should be sticky as well or it can be merged but the content is too deep in this thread and might get missed.
 
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