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Well, I know there are a bunch of you that have driven the Fed Elise already.....Well, this weekend was my turn....

I can tell you this. Everything that everyone has posted about the car is true....

First the bad stuff....Yes, the center plastic piece of crap moves when you are shifting and your leg will move it as well during spirted driving.....but you know what......I am not looking at the shifter when I am driving so I did not care. If it breaks....thats what warrenties are for....

The pedals....My wide feet worked fine....Heel / toe was a breeze...very easy compared to a Z06...Those that said the brake pedal went down to far never really tried to heel / toe while the car is moving. When the brake is applied with authority, the motor requires a large blip to make the RPM....the pedal height matches perfectly.....also, I could left foot brake the car with running shoes on....it was tight....but it could be done.

Believe it or not....the window rattled on the demo....With the touring package....I put it up and it stopped rattling.... OH well...somethings will never change.


NOW THE GOOD STUFF,

The seats are to die for....but you better not get FAT.... You could FEEL everything without being abused. The steering wheel is the same way.....just like the video...YEP, there a bug....6 legged....

The interesting part....from the outside the Elise is VERY quiet.....on the inside its LOUD....but its excellent. The sound of the intake and the motor is too cool.....It reminded me of my old MR2 ( which I loved) only loader.

I can tell you this, the car does not feel seat of the pants quick....In a Z06 you know your halling the mail....In an Elise you do not...In fact, it feels a little slow....BUT.....before you flame me...it is very deceptive. You are haulling....The car is SO STABLE and SOLID that it is begging you to run it harder. It is almost as if the chassis is saying, Yah, some day you will drive it hard enough to make me work.....

I can not wait to autocross this car....I think that will be the point where the Elise really can show itself....This car can be driven harder than even I imagined....

The motor, it is funny how a motor that when its in the celica feels like a pig can be so alive in the Elise. The bottom end was pretty darn good in a 5th gear pull from 30 mph......The Cayanne next to me ( trying to check me out) could not keep up...hehehee..

BUT....when the motor hits 6500.....thats when the fun starts...it is very linear...it does not smack you like an S2000....It just starts pulling harder....I promised the dealer that I would not run his demo hard so I only took two pulls in the VVTI and I bailed at just about 7500 RPM.....I can only imagine the last 1000 RPM.....Can you say fun....

Man I could go on for the rest of the day...but I will not....

Later,
 

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elise77 said:

I can not wait to autocross this car....
Sept 11th. You will have your chance. :)
 

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On the LSD......

I did not move a wheel on the test drive....It was too tough to tell.

I believe we really will not see the need for a diff until the baby is leaned over digging the door handle in second at 7K.... Then we all will wish it was in the back....

I can tell you this....the car put power down better than the 111S I drove a year ago.... and the fit and finish was better.

later

Randy, I can not wait to try it in Sept....I will shoot you my run group in the practice as soon as I know it...

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Those that said the brake pedal went down to far never really tried to heel / toe while the car is moving. When the brake is applied with authority, the motor requires a large blip to make the RPM....the pedal height matches perfectly...
Where did you drive the Elise?

I did heel-toe while the car was moving, and every time I missed it because I couldn't depress the brake far enough before running into the gas pedal. But, I wasn't braking with much authority--the limits of the Elise are so high and traffic in front of me was so slow, I didn't get much of a chance to do *anything* with authority.

Good to hear a second opinion, though. If I get a chance to take a second test drive, I'll try to get some clear road. Hmm, I wonder if LOA is open at 6am... ;)

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Pat do you have one on order? I couldnt remember from your previous posts. Glad to hear about the good seats and that left foot breaking is possible.
Was the steering fairly fast? We all know a slow steering ratio is not so fun for autox lol. The steering ratio posted by one of the magazines was slower than an S2000 so I've been wondering if the small wheel base helps make up for the slower ratio. The small steering wheel probably helps a bit too.
You guys need to sand bag in Topeka so that the car doesn't appear to be too good for stock class ;)
 

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Well, sorry there Z06....sand bag in not in my vocabulary.....Selective throttle...hehehehe...might be...Nah...

The steering is slow....compared to an S2000 its REALLY slow but thats good in the Elise. The short wheelbase ( believe it or not its the same length as a C4 Corvette...and the slalom like nobodys business) and the small wheel make for an excellent combo... I revert back to my 93 MR2. The steering was slow in that as well. I called it driving a bus. BUT on an autocross the slow steering kept you from getting crazy. Too many people turn too much, too fast. I work on 90% of the people in the evo schools on that very problem.

This car begs to be driven as hard as you can....I can just feel it.. I hope Lotus built in some durability..... I can not see to many Elises in the local show and shines......but I can see a ton of them with cone marks on them and track rubber marks on the hoods...

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I just like the fast steering because it is one of things I have always felt makes my S2000 feel like a big go kart. But I really like it in autox because for most of the local courses I find myself on, the slalom cones don't have any kind of significant distance between them like they do in a national level course. Fast steering is nice when the cones are at the 45 ft minimum lol.
Thanks for the info. Can't wait to hear your impressions of the car after nationals, take good notes:)
 
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